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Interesting read

Chris Shinn on Fronting Live: ‘I’m Just Embarrassed By the Whole Thing’


https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-fe...zyk-1234621472/

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The timing of this article is a hatchet job!

The million dollar question is WHO poked Rolling Stone and said hey I think you should randomly do an interview with Shinn nervous.gif

I wish I could say more because there is more, but I can't.

What I will say, however, is after 4 years being in a band there is ZERO excuses for still having lyrics at your feet on stage!


What an absolute shit show.... if only Netflix could see the value in a Some Kind Of Monster 2 starring..... uhoh.gif


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QUOTE(gerrycan70 @ Nov 3 2022, 4:49 am) *

The timing of this article is a hatchet job!

The million dollar question is WHO poked Rolling Stone and said hey I think you should randomly do an interview with Shinn nervous.gif


The timing of this article coincides with Shinn putting out his own album. There's no mystery there. But you assume no one wants to hear from Shinn after all the shit that's gone down with the band recently? "Whoever" poked Rolling Stone probably didn't have to poke very hard.

QUOTE(gerrycan70 @ Nov 3 2022, 4:49 am) *

I wish I could say more because there is more, but I can't.


What this intimates in not so very subtle terms is that Shinn has some sour grapes. Well, no shit. He all but says so in any interview he's given about what went down between he and CCP. He's not hiding that shit.

QUOTE(gerrycan70 @ Nov 3 2022, 4:49 am) *

What I will say, however, is after 4 years being in a band there is ZERO excuses for still having lyrics at your feet on stage!


So what if he had lyrics on the stage? You say that like it makes him a bad person. At most it makes him a mediocre performer. Maybe he's just not cut out to be in an arena rock band. Or maybe it means he 's just better off performing his own music under his terms. He didn't write any of those Līve hits he was tasked with performing, after all.

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What an absolute shit show.... if only Netflix could see the value in a Some Kind Of Monster 2 starring..... uhoh.gif


No, I think the shit show is what's going on with the "band" right now. We're met with silence for a long time and then when we finally hear anything about what's going on is how the guitar player is fired for being a Big Dick all these years and how things are being set right... only to see the singer take off with the name and play shows with hired hands. EK should just drop the v out of the name Līve.

Maybe CT is the biggest douche ever, but maybe Ed is right behind him in 2nd place for pulling his own bitch made coup. Because that's what it looks like to me, especially if what CS said in that interview has any truth to it about the rest of the band being fired.

People will just have to make up their own minds about that and reconcile it with all the people who have nothing but glowing things to say about Shinn as a person who have met him. Seems like the biggest gripe people have had with Shinn is that he forgets lyrics and that he came from daddy's money, both of which are weak/thinly veiled attacks on his character based on both his performances as an artist (get up there and do it your fucking self if you think he sucked so badly) and life circumstances (he didn't control what family he was born into... why should he have to apologize for his father being successful).

If Ed has fired the entire band then he's not much better than CT, imo, at least when it comes the business of being in a world renowned rock band. And his touring under the name is as much a farce as everyone said it was for CCCP to tour and record under it.

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QUOTE(AManIsTadChaylor @ Nov 3 2022, 11:13 am) *

Maybe CT is the biggest douche ever, but maybe Ed is right behind him in 2nd place for pulling his own bitch made coup. Because that's what it looks like to me, especially if what CS said in that interview has any truth to it about the rest of the band being fired.


Are you for real?
There is nothing that infuriates me more than to see Ed get hated on for trying to keep this band going. As soon as I read the interview with Shinn yesterday, I thought, “Oh great. Cue the Ed haters.” facepalm.gif
Poor guy. He never has a bad word to say about any of them, doesn’t have anything to do with their bad business dealings, brings back the music for us, and look at what he gets.

I could tell on the tours that PD’s heart wasn’t in it. - The way he acted on stage. Shinn confirmed it in the interview. I’ve been tired of CG’s bullshit for quite a while. No, I’m not talking political. Remember the “promoter chooses the setlist” lie, and then calling out fans who were commenting about them phoning it in? If your heart is not into it, then good riddance! Ed’s heart is still in it. That Niagara Falls show, from the videos I saw, looked like it was fantastic. I’ll take Ed and the hired musicians over the months upon months of silence we suffered through. Let Ed move away from the drama and the band mates who aren’t feeling it anymore and be able to do his art, what he loves. Enjoy it for what it is. If not, move on as well.


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QUOTE(Voodoo Lady @ Nov 3 2022, 12:37 pm) *

Are you for real?
There is nothing that infuriates me more than to see Ed get hated on for trying to keep this band going. As soon as I read the interview with Shinn yesterday, I thought, “Oh great. Cue the Ed haters.” facepalm.gif
Poor guy. He never has a bad word to say about any of them, doesn’t have anything to do with their bad business dealings, brings back the music for us, and look at what he gets.

I could tell on the tours that PD’s heart wasn’t in it. - The way he acted on stage. Shinn confirmed it in the interview. I’ve been tired of CG’s bullshit for quite a while. No, I’m not talking political. Remember the “promoter chooses the setlist” lie, and then calling out fans who were commenting about them phoning it in? If your heart is not into it, then good riddance! Ed’s heart is still in it. That Niagara Falls show, from the videos I saw, looked like it was fantastic. I’ll take Ed and the hired musicians over the months upon months of silence we suffered through. Let Ed move away from the drama and the band mates who aren’t feeling it anymore and be able to do his art, what he loves. Enjoy it for what it is. If not, move on as well.


I agree - I can’t understand the perspective that Ed is the bad guy here, at all. Besides for perhaps having a lead singer ego, I can’t point to anything he’s done “wrong”.


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717raised   Chris Shinn on Fronting Live: ‘I’m Just Embarrassed...."   Nov 2 2022, 10:03 am
Pingfah   Fascinating. Chris believes Ed has permanently fir...   Nov 2 2022, 12:51 pm
717raised   Fascinating. Chris believes Ed has permanently fi...   Nov 2 2022, 1:25 pm
Hoodstock   Can anyone post the full story here?   Nov 2 2022, 2:17 pm
Voodoo Lady   This explains everything. Every question we’ve eve...   Nov 2 2022, 2:26 pm
Merica   Wow. That was an uncomfortable but fascinating rea...   Nov 2 2022, 2:46 pm
mattyeagles   Wow. That was an uncomfortable but fascinating re...   Nov 2 2022, 2:48 pm
Orion0767   Extremely interesting article. Cue the Ed haters ...   Nov 2 2022, 7:27 pm
chazeye   I agree with Orion0767 on this based on everything...   Nov 2 2022, 10:05 pm
Gertjan   Be prepared. It's a long article. Chris Shinn...   Nov 2 2022, 2:57 pm
Hoodstock   Be prepared. It's a long article. Thanks...   Nov 2 2022, 9:00 pm
Cardiff_Giant   I don't want to be the guy who makes presumpti...   Nov 2 2022, 3:17 pm
Hoodstock   I don't want to be the guy who makes presumpt...   Nov 2 2022, 9:05 pm
Bremang   The interviewer doesn't really have all the de...   Nov 2 2022, 3:34 pm
Merica   Interestingly Shinn admits to being the reason beh...   Nov 2 2022, 3:58 pm
Orion0767   The interviewer doesn't really have all the d...   Nov 2 2022, 5:54 pm
Hoodstock   This statement from tha article was interesting: ...   Nov 2 2022, 9:10 pm
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AManIsTadChaylor   The stuff about Patrick... I felt that on a person...   Nov 2 2022, 10:07 pm
LiveForNow   Here is the conclusion I've jumped to, based o...   Nov 3 2022, 1:17 am
Bremang   The timing of this article is a hatchet job! ...   Nov 3 2022, 5:22 am
gerrycan70   Well it is part of a series that is totally appli...   Nov 3 2022, 5:39 am
alexou   The timing of this article is a hatchet job! ...   Nov 3 2022, 10:23 am
Gruno   So what if he had lyrics on the stage? You say th...   Nov 3 2022, 12:22 pm
AManIsTadChaylor   I might have missed it in the Rolling Stone inter...   Nov 3 2022, 12:44 pm
Tips   The timing of this article is a hatchet job! ...   Nov 5 2022, 9:08 am
mattyeagles   I know how this happened. You see, after it was a...   Nov 5 2022, 2:02 pm
Bremang   Apart from you and Bill Hynes around here, I...   Nov 5 2022, 6:05 pm
Bremang   The one time I met Chris Shinn - he was hanging o...   Nov 3 2022, 5:20 am
mattyeagles   The one time I met Chris Shinn - he was hanging ...   Nov 3 2022, 6:57 am
gerrycan70   The one time I met Chris Shinn - he was hanging ...   Nov 3 2022, 7:17 am
Gertjan   I might be alone in my assessment, but if anyone ...   Nov 3 2022, 7:55 am
alexou   I don't share your view on Chris as frontman....   Nov 3 2022, 10:39 am
Bremang   I don't share your view on Chris as frontman...   Nov 3 2022, 8:26 pm
Cardiff_Giant   why is Chris Shinn butthurt even in the slightest?...   Nov 3 2022, 7:28 am
Badman   The fact none of CCP wrote a single word on The ...   Nov 3 2022, 2:03 pm
Bremang   The fact none of CCP wrote a single word on Th...   Nov 3 2022, 8:24 pm
Cardiff_Giant   after 4 years being in a band there is ZERO excus...   Nov 3 2022, 2:30 pm
gerrycan70   Axl Rose uses a Teleprompter, and I'd say he...   Nov 3 2022, 8:48 pm
live2cd   All the large artists have a teleprompter present...   Nov 4 2022, 6:44 am
throwing_cheetahs   All the large artists have a teleprompter present...   Nov 5 2022, 7:34 pm
AManIsTadChaylor   Seems you have some deep rooted hate for Chris. ...   Nov 6 2022, 1:39 pm
Waterboy   This is the first time I've ever seen someone...   Nov 7 2022, 4:49 pm
JonSnow   Not the first time I am hearing about Chris and a...   Nov 7 2022, 9:39 pm
Cardiff_Giant   After reading Shinn's interview, it makes the ...   Nov 3 2022, 2:48 pm
Cardiff_Giant   The million dollar question is WHO poked Rolling S...   Nov 3 2022, 3:01 pm
Gertjan   Ed had lyrics to Imagine taped to the floor. Not t...   Nov 4 2022, 3:57 am
mattyeagles   Ed had lyrics to Imagine taped to the floor. Not ...   Nov 4 2022, 6:56 am
Bremang   Ed had lyrics to Imagine taped to the floor. Not ...   Nov 4 2022, 3:17 pm
sellingthdrama   Wow, the surprises and dysfunction never end. I l...   Nov 4 2022, 7:06 pm
Bremang   For Christ's sake, stop fucking demanding the...   Nov 4 2022, 9:33 pm
ADAD   Good look at a video of a Bruce Springsteen concer...   Nov 5 2022, 11:37 am
Tips   Good look at a video of a Bruce Springsteen conce...   Nov 5 2022, 12:21 pm
Ecstatic Fanatic   Really interesting read. In a lot of ways it’s not...   Nov 5 2022, 11:20 pm
Pingfah   One question, Chris says the orignal plan was jus...   Nov 6 2022, 5:00 am
dangum   Did any of these re-records end up bring used anyw...   Nov 6 2022, 12:20 am
SuperHans   Did any of these re-records end up bring used any...   Nov 6 2022, 2:48 am
Bremang   Fresh off the Boat used Lightning Crashes, I rec...   Nov 7 2022, 2:24 am
Tips   I still can’t understand the rationale of compari...   Nov 6 2022, 7:06 am
Gruno   But OK, let's say you're a diehard fan an...   Nov 6 2022, 12:45 pm
Bremang   That's a fucking ridiculous standard. Why? ...   Nov 7 2022, 2:31 am
mymrnngjckt   Chris Shinn appears to be the only honest member o...   Nov 7 2022, 11:40 am
jclive   Chris Shinn appears to be the only honest member ...   Nov 7 2022, 12:15 pm
JonSnow   There can't be very many people who think Chr...   Nov 7 2022, 1:25 pm
mymrnngjckt   There can't be very many people who think Chr...   Nov 7 2022, 1:29 pm
mattyeagles   To me, nothing appears to be a lie or made up. H...   Nov 7 2022, 1:34 pm
JonSnow   He also has a much shorter and less complicated h...   Nov 7 2022, 1:44 pm
mattyeagles   What does his length of time with the band or the...   Nov 7 2022, 1:54 pm
mattyeagles   I think the length of time that the band was toge...   Nov 7 2022, 1:56 pm
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