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Interesting read

Chris Shinn on Fronting Live: ‘I’m Just Embarrassed By the Whole Thing’


https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-fe...zyk-1234621472/

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I don't want to be the guy who makes presumptions by connecting dots (but that's what a message board is all about, no?) but ...

It sounds to me, from reading this interview with CS (and what we knew before), that:

1. There is a corporation known as Live: Ed, CT, CG, and PD.
2. The band Live is a part of the corporation.
3. Ed owns a majority stake in the corporation.
4. Ed first fired CT, and now CG and PD, from the band but they each still own a stake of the corporation.
5. Ed tours with the other band members he has hired, but CCP are still financially vested in the corporation.

I don't know if any of that makes sense to anyone else but me. Just a theory.




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QUOTE(Cardiff_Giant @ Nov 2 2022, 4:17 pm) *

I don't want to be the guy who makes presumptions by connecting dots (but that's what a message board is all about, no?) but ...

It sounds to me, from reading this interview with CS (and what we knew before), that:

1. There is a corporation known as Live: Ed, CT, CG, and PD.
2. The band Live is a part of the corporation.
3. Ed owns a majority stake in the corporation.
4. Ed first fired CT, and now CG and PD, from the band but they each still own a stake of the corporation.
5. Ed tours with the other band members he has hired, but CCP are still financially vested in the corporation.

I don't know if any of that makes sense to anyone else but me. Just a theory.

I believe Ed is the defacto CEO and performer while CT is a minority owner and non-performer. If Shinn is accurate then the same applies to CG and PD.
That's also how it appears now that Live is touring but it's never been stated by anyone the band. I just wish someone would comment on the standing of CG and PD going forward for the die hard fans.

I assume Ed is touring and the others get a percentage cut based on their share of the ownership. It's also possible Ed gets all the money from touring and the others still receive income from recording royalties.

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717raised   Chris Shinn on Fronting Live: ‘I’m Just Embarrassed...."   Nov 2 2022, 10:03 am
Pingfah   Fascinating. Chris believes Ed has permanently fir...   Nov 2 2022, 12:51 pm
717raised   Fascinating. Chris believes Ed has permanently fi...   Nov 2 2022, 1:25 pm
Hoodstock   Can anyone post the full story here?   Nov 2 2022, 2:17 pm
Voodoo Lady   This explains everything. Every question we’ve eve...   Nov 2 2022, 2:26 pm
Merica   Wow. That was an uncomfortable but fascinating rea...   Nov 2 2022, 2:46 pm
mattyeagles   Wow. That was an uncomfortable but fascinating re...   Nov 2 2022, 2:48 pm
Orion0767   Extremely interesting article. Cue the Ed haters ...   Nov 2 2022, 7:27 pm
chazeye   I agree with Orion0767 on this based on everything...   Nov 2 2022, 10:05 pm
Gertjan   Be prepared. It's a long article. Chris Shinn...   Nov 2 2022, 2:57 pm
Hoodstock   Be prepared. It's a long article. Thanks...   Nov 2 2022, 9:00 pm
Bremang   The interviewer doesn't really have all the de...   Nov 2 2022, 3:34 pm
Merica   Interestingly Shinn admits to being the reason beh...   Nov 2 2022, 3:58 pm
Orion0767   The interviewer doesn't really have all the d...   Nov 2 2022, 5:54 pm
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LiveForNow   Here is the conclusion I've jumped to, based o...   Nov 3 2022, 1:17 am
gerrycan70   The timing of this article is a hatchet job! ...   Nov 3 2022, 4:49 am
Bremang   The timing of this article is a hatchet job! ...   Nov 3 2022, 5:22 am
gerrycan70   Well it is part of a series that is totally appli...   Nov 3 2022, 5:39 am
alexou   The timing of this article is a hatchet job! ...   Nov 3 2022, 10:23 am
AManIsTadChaylor   The timing of this article is a hatchet job! ...   Nov 3 2022, 11:13 am
Voodoo Lady   Maybe CT is the biggest douche ever, but maybe Ed...   Nov 3 2022, 11:37 am
mattyeagles   Are you for real? There is nothing that infuriat...   Nov 3 2022, 12:19 pm
Gruno   So what if he had lyrics on the stage? You say th...   Nov 3 2022, 12:22 pm
AManIsTadChaylor   I might have missed it in the Rolling Stone inter...   Nov 3 2022, 12:44 pm
Tips   The timing of this article is a hatchet job! ...   Nov 5 2022, 9:08 am
mattyeagles   I know how this happened. You see, after it was a...   Nov 5 2022, 2:02 pm
Bremang   Apart from you and Bill Hynes around here, I...   Nov 5 2022, 6:05 pm
Bremang   The one time I met Chris Shinn - he was hanging o...   Nov 3 2022, 5:20 am
mattyeagles   The one time I met Chris Shinn - he was hanging ...   Nov 3 2022, 6:57 am
gerrycan70   The one time I met Chris Shinn - he was hanging ...   Nov 3 2022, 7:17 am
Gertjan   I might be alone in my assessment, but if anyone ...   Nov 3 2022, 7:55 am
alexou   I don't share your view on Chris as frontman....   Nov 3 2022, 10:39 am
Bremang   I don't share your view on Chris as frontman...   Nov 3 2022, 8:26 pm
Cardiff_Giant   why is Chris Shinn butthurt even in the slightest?...   Nov 3 2022, 7:28 am
Badman   The fact none of CCP wrote a single word on The ...   Nov 3 2022, 2:03 pm
Bremang   The fact none of CCP wrote a single word on Th...   Nov 3 2022, 8:24 pm
Cardiff_Giant   after 4 years being in a band there is ZERO excus...   Nov 3 2022, 2:30 pm
gerrycan70   Axl Rose uses a Teleprompter, and I'd say he...   Nov 3 2022, 8:48 pm
live2cd   All the large artists have a teleprompter present...   Nov 4 2022, 6:44 am
throwing_cheetahs   All the large artists have a teleprompter present...   Nov 5 2022, 7:34 pm
AManIsTadChaylor   Seems you have some deep rooted hate for Chris. ...   Nov 6 2022, 1:39 pm
Waterboy   This is the first time I've ever seen someone...   Nov 7 2022, 4:49 pm
JonSnow   Not the first time I am hearing about Chris and a...   Nov 7 2022, 9:39 pm
Cardiff_Giant   After reading Shinn's interview, it makes the ...   Nov 3 2022, 2:48 pm
Cardiff_Giant   The million dollar question is WHO poked Rolling S...   Nov 3 2022, 3:01 pm
Gertjan   Ed had lyrics to Imagine taped to the floor. Not t...   Nov 4 2022, 3:57 am
mattyeagles   Ed had lyrics to Imagine taped to the floor. Not ...   Nov 4 2022, 6:56 am
Bremang   Ed had lyrics to Imagine taped to the floor. Not ...   Nov 4 2022, 3:17 pm
sellingthdrama   Wow, the surprises and dysfunction never end. I l...   Nov 4 2022, 7:06 pm
Bremang   For Christ's sake, stop fucking demanding the...   Nov 4 2022, 9:33 pm
ADAD   Good look at a video of a Bruce Springsteen concer...   Nov 5 2022, 11:37 am
Tips   Good look at a video of a Bruce Springsteen conce...   Nov 5 2022, 12:21 pm
Ecstatic Fanatic   Really interesting read. In a lot of ways it’s not...   Nov 5 2022, 11:20 pm
Pingfah   One question, Chris says the orignal plan was jus...   Nov 6 2022, 5:00 am
dangum   Did any of these re-records end up bring used anyw...   Nov 6 2022, 12:20 am
SuperHans   Did any of these re-records end up bring used any...   Nov 6 2022, 2:48 am
Bremang   Fresh off the Boat used Lightning Crashes, I rec...   Nov 7 2022, 2:24 am
Tips   I still can’t understand the rationale of compari...   Nov 6 2022, 7:06 am
Gruno   But OK, let's say you're a diehard fan an...   Nov 6 2022, 12:45 pm
Bremang   That's a fucking ridiculous standard. Why? ...   Nov 7 2022, 2:31 am
mymrnngjckt   Chris Shinn appears to be the only honest member o...   Nov 7 2022, 11:40 am
jclive   Chris Shinn appears to be the only honest member ...   Nov 7 2022, 12:15 pm
JonSnow   There can't be very many people who think Chr...   Nov 7 2022, 1:25 pm
mymrnngjckt   There can't be very many people who think Chr...   Nov 7 2022, 1:29 pm
mattyeagles   To me, nothing appears to be a lie or made up. H...   Nov 7 2022, 1:34 pm
JonSnow   He also has a much shorter and less complicated h...   Nov 7 2022, 1:44 pm
mattyeagles   What does his length of time with the band or the...   Nov 7 2022, 1:54 pm
mattyeagles   I think the length of time that the band was toge...   Nov 7 2022, 1:56 pm
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