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post Jun 3 2022, 2:45 pm
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If you missed it Ed went on Instagram basically stating that Live never was much of a band, that the reunion wasn't really a "reunion ", and that he's not in anyone's band.

Chad Gracey commented on this on Facebook:
"There is only one source of drama in LIVE. You guys figure it out. And obviously it’s not Ed."

Bill Hynes then replied to Chad "Chad Gracey and that person has small penis Napoleon narcissist syndrome." to which Chad liked with a laugh emoji.

Bill also said this on Facebook in the conversation:

"One thing is certain. Ed don’t need anyone. His talent and song writing ability is his. As it was seen before. He is irreplaceable. Others need him more than he needs them. When the band broke up the first time it was one person and only one persons fault and that person wasn’t Ed. It rhymes with Tad Chaylor."

and Bill in response to Ed's comments:

"That’s actually is NOT what he is saying. He’s saying he isn’t in someone’s band. He’s in HIS band. But someone has an ego and likes to tell everyone that he’s the band and it’s his band and take credit for songs that he didn’t write. So what ED is saying is that HE isn’t in someone else’s band."

There was also a comment about Chad being a successful insurance agent. Chad replied "I do insurance on the side with my partner George. Im also into a few other endeavors."

Quite a flurry of activity after little to no comments on the state of the band for a lengthy period of time.


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post Jun 24 2022, 6:38 pm
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QUOTE(gerrycan70 @ Jun 24 2022, 10:54 am) *

Welcome to the FOL board, the rollercoaster ride of ups and downs, fun, and drama banana.gif

Really respect your thoughts on the shows you attended. Not speaking for the band, but if they had their time over again I doubt there would've been a second drummer retained.

I've seen Zak play in the flesh about 5 times, 3 with Live, 2 with Ed. I think he's a brilliant young guitarist. Whether he outshone Taylor could've simply been Taylor's mix being too low. Also the speaker set ups can sometimes give more bias depending on where you're positioned in the crowd.

I can't see the original 4 being retained, given Ed's post. I'd encourage you to give Zak another chance to prove his worth to you.

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He was a nice addition to the acoustic shows to provide the usual Taylor atmosphere and leads to the great batch of songs, but I'd much prefer the original members. It's a shame that their own chemistry is what makes them great and also what makes them hate.

It doesn't go well when others replace creative members of a band - I would use Pearl Jam as a prime example. I am a guitarist and lead singer by trade, but I love drummers and drums and although I have tons of respect to Matt Cameron as an excellent drummer for Soundgarden and their cool rhythmic meters, he is absolutely AWFUL in Pearl Jam. It's a travesty that egomaniac Eddie Vedder denied Dave Abbrusseze the opportunity to play, if not just to stand at the RnR HOF ceremony. They haven't had a great drummer since Dave A. Since Matt Cameron entered the fold, Pearl Jam lost it's swing and groove overnight - which is what totally MADE the band.

Now Zak Loy would just be playing leads and could much more easily fade to the background on LIVE stuff, so I get that he's forgivable and seemed like very much the team player. I just hated that Ed brought him into that whole reunion tour, like overstuffing the stage was going to make it easier on him so he wouldn't have to deal with the other members. The whole stage sound was overstuffed as well - part of what makes Live's original music so great is the distinctness of the parts and the space allowed to each player. Ed used to play guitar ALL the time and now he's adopted the Andre Agassi frontman with a mic image. He's not a bad rhythm player at all, I wish he'd play more in general and definitely more electric. It's like Red Hot Chili Peppers, the interplay between the band members and the space is what make them so unique and fun to listen to. John Frusciante, Flea and Chad Smith create the perfect brew of instrumentation. Less is always more in music - I've never seen it work the other way unless it's Pet Sounds, which is more the studio masterpiece anyhow.


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Hoodstock   What's Going On? Is Live Over?   Jun 3 2022, 2:45 pm
Voodoo Lady   For what it’s worth, I noticed that Ed unfollowed ...   Jun 3 2022, 3:16 pm
Bremang   To quote Bremang, Bill Hynes is the Yoko Ono of...   Jun 4 2022, 2:41 am
Voodoo Lady   Did I say that? I don't recall. I don't t...   Jun 4 2022, 5:03 am
SJN1279   If you look at Ed's IG, he is no longer follow...   Jun 4 2022, 1:02 pm
Voodoo Lady   If you look at Ed's IG, he is no longer follo...   Jun 4 2022, 1:09 pm
The Thrill   For what it’s worth, I noticed that Ed unfollowed...   Jun 6 2022, 6:58 pm
Voodoo Lady   Cindy, I take it you have never listened to one L...   Jun 6 2022, 7:16 pm
The Thrill   Thank you for your best wishes. I’ve been a L...   Jun 6 2022, 7:21 pm
Voodoo Lady   Is it possible that since this is uncharted terri...   Jun 6 2022, 7:32 pm
The Thrill   A generalized hiatus statement during the height ...   Jun 6 2022, 7:42 pm
Voodoo Lady   I hear ya. Nobody is perfect. I bet all of them...   Jun 6 2022, 7:48 pm
Bremang   I along with Bob Zazerra went to and Ed solo sh...   Jun 6 2022, 8:04 pm
The Thrill   All Bob ever wanted was to be deeply involved wit...   Jun 6 2022, 8:12 pm
alexou   All Bob ever wanted was to be deeply involved wit...   Jun 6 2022, 8:12 pm
The Thrill   Wait what? too much too handle tonight... I under...   Jun 6 2022, 8:15 pm
Bremang   .   Jun 6 2022, 8:18 pm
alexou   I'm just trolling the troll about the cheatin...   Jun 6 2022, 8:25 pm
Bremang   A lot of us got fooled by CT let's be hones...   Jun 6 2022, 8:29 pm
LiveForNow   Where can I find this video or post? I don't s...   Jun 3 2022, 6:53 pm
Bremang   Chad Taylor's FOL Tour Diary @ Dec 24, 2004   Jun 4 2022, 2:43 am
OutToDry   And out your feet in the water, put your head in t...   Jun 4 2022, 1:09 pm
Voodoo Lady   First music news outlet that I’ve seen give attent...   Jun 5 2022, 11:20 am
Voodoo Lady   I am just now seeing this on FoL Facebook page. No...   Jun 5 2022, 1:27 pm
Orion0767   I am just now seeing this on FoL Facebook page. N...   Jun 6 2022, 6:27 pm
Srx17   So I guess these comments were deleted from the F...   Jun 6 2022, 6:30 pm
Srx17   More explanation today, from the FB Page: [Bill ...   Jun 6 2022, 6:32 pm
Orion0767   He was originally talking about the new remixed t...   Jun 6 2022, 7:15 pm
Bremang   More explanation today, from the FB Page: [Bil...   Jun 6 2022, 7:06 pm
Bremang   "I met many women. I shared myself like never...   Jun 5 2022, 8:13 pm
Bremang   There's now an actual Yoko out there for Live ...   Jun 5 2022, 8:15 pm
The Thrill   There's now an actual Yoko out there for Live...   Jun 6 2022, 6:40 pm
alexou   Hopefully he finds a tall building and.... Le...   Jun 6 2022, 6:50 pm
The Thrill   Let's be better than this... for the rest, e...   Jun 6 2022, 6:54 pm
Bremang   The guitarist of Live is the Yoko ono of Live. ...   Jun 6 2022, 7:16 pm
The Thrill   I appreciate that you're alleging more of the...   Jun 6 2022, 7:29 pm
Orion0767   The guitarist of Live is the Yoko ono of Live. H...   Jun 6 2022, 8:22 pm
Badman   I've been following the drama on the facebook ...   Jun 6 2022, 1:03 am
Bremang   I've been following the drama on the facebook...   Jun 6 2022, 1:22 am
grandfalloon   Clearly Bill read my recent repost of Chad's ...   Jun 6 2022, 9:26 am
Bremang   why are you so convinced that Bill Hynes is the...   Jun 6 2022, 6:33 pm
grandfalloon   I've been following the drama on the facebook...   Jun 6 2022, 9:52 am
Bremang   People saying Hynes is a criminal? More like fa...   Jun 6 2022, 6:54 pm
The Thrill   Well, Bill was convicted of a felony related to c...   Jun 6 2022, 7:14 pm
Bremang   I bounced a check in 2008. It wasn't a check...   Jun 6 2022, 7:18 pm
The Thrill   Well, Bill was convicted of a felony related to c...   Jun 6 2022, 7:16 pm
Srx17   I've been following the drama on the facebook...   Jun 6 2022, 11:16 am
Voodoo Lady   I do know there's a podcast, from a bandmate,...   Jun 6 2022, 2:07 pm
Srx17   We know the podcast is going to be Bill Hynes and...   Jun 6 2022, 3:51 pm
Bremang   I do know there's a podcast, from a bandmate...   Jun 6 2022, 7:00 pm
mattyeagles   No one is looking good in this situation. It’s od...   Jun 6 2022, 7:13 am
alexou   I laughed at the Chad T. asked for a lead guitar f...   Jun 6 2022, 10:25 am
The Thrill   I laughed at the Chad T. asked for a lead guitar ...   Jun 6 2022, 6:51 pm
alexou   Chad Taylor is a very talented musician. I won’t ...   Jun 6 2022, 6:55 pm
The Thrill   thanks for the input, the thing I always had with...   Jun 6 2022, 7:01 pm
alexou   To his defense. He always said he wasn’t a solo ...   Jun 6 2022, 7:05 pm
Bremang   I laughed at the Chad T. asked for a lead guitar ...   Jun 6 2022, 6:57 pm
alexou   fuck - TGF was literally up on spotify a couple d...   Jun 6 2022, 6:58 pm
Hoodstock   "So, Chad Taylor torpedoed Live …" I ca...   Jun 6 2022, 2:32 pm
Srx17   "So, Chad Taylor torpedoed Live …" I c...   Jun 6 2022, 3:51 pm
Badman   I had a thought recently on why we haven't hea...   Jun 6 2022, 4:56 pm
Srx17   I had a thought recently on why we haven't he...   Jun 6 2022, 6:23 pm
Orion0767   The bigger thing that makes you think, whom did h...   Jun 6 2022, 6:30 pm
The Thrill   Exactly It’s really not hard to figure out.   Jun 6 2022, 7:07 pm
LanceManion   I have been debating whether or not to put this ou...   Jun 6 2022, 7:31 pm
The Thrill   I have been debating whether or not to put this o...   Jun 6 2022, 7:32 pm
LanceManion   We have a winner. I have to say, this is not som...   Jun 6 2022, 7:34 pm
The Thrill   I have to say, this is not something I wanted to ...   Jun 6 2022, 7:36 pm
Orion0767   I have to say, this is not something I wanted to ...   Jun 6 2022, 7:39 pm
The Thrill   Same here. I just kept thinking, no way. SMH, I f...   Jun 6 2022, 7:44 pm
Orion0767   Him and his children are doing very well. That...   Jun 6 2022, 7:53 pm
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alexou   just insane...like you stated, Gracey looked like ...   Jun 6 2022, 7:44 pm
Orion0767   [quote name='alexou' post='142955...   Jun 6 2022, 7:50 pm
Bremang   There was the lead singer bonus that everyone hear...   Jun 6 2022, 8:21 pm
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