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post Jun 3 2022, 2:45 pm
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If you missed it Ed went on Instagram basically stating that Live never was much of a band, that the reunion wasn't really a "reunion ", and that he's not in anyone's band.

Chad Gracey commented on this on Facebook:
"There is only one source of drama in LIVE. You guys figure it out. And obviously it’s not Ed."

Bill Hynes then replied to Chad "Chad Gracey and that person has small penis Napoleon narcissist syndrome." to which Chad liked with a laugh emoji.

Bill also said this on Facebook in the conversation:

"One thing is certain. Ed don’t need anyone. His talent and song writing ability is his. As it was seen before. He is irreplaceable. Others need him more than he needs them. When the band broke up the first time it was one person and only one persons fault and that person wasn’t Ed. It rhymes with Tad Chaylor."

and Bill in response to Ed's comments:

"That’s actually is NOT what he is saying. He’s saying he isn’t in someone’s band. He’s in HIS band. But someone has an ego and likes to tell everyone that he’s the band and it’s his band and take credit for songs that he didn’t write. So what ED is saying is that HE isn’t in someone else’s band."

There was also a comment about Chad being a successful insurance agent. Chad replied "I do insurance on the side with my partner George. Im also into a few other endeavors."

Quite a flurry of activity after little to no comments on the state of the band for a lengthy period of time.


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post Jun 6 2022, 1:03 am
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I've been following the drama on the facebook FoL page - everyone is just eating up what Bill Hynes is saying. I thought he was a criminal who couldn't be trusted? Can his accusations be trusted?

Of chad taylor, Bill said "He craves attention and doesn’t like when anyone else gets it. He tried to take credit for songs Ed 100% wrote. In his own words he was crushed when Ed wrote V all by himself. The reality is that Ed doesn’t need Chad T. Chad T needs Ed."

They're over there using chad's stomps as evidence that he wants attention lol. They are saying that he demands a huge lead guitarist fee. I wish Chad T would come out with a statement and explain some of this. It seems weird that the Q anoner, the lead singer bonus guy, and criminal mastermind bill would be fully in the right on all this. Is it true?

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QUOTE(Badman @ Jun 6 2022, 1:03 am) *

I've been following the drama on the facebook FoL page - everyone is just eating up what Bill Hynes is saying. I thought he was a criminal who couldn't be trusted? Can his accusations be trusted?

Of chad taylor, Bill said "He craves attention and doesn’t like when anyone else gets it. He tried to take credit for songs Ed 100% wrote. In his own words he was crushed when Ed wrote V all by himself. The reality is that Ed doesn’t need Chad T. Chad T needs Ed."

They're over there using chad's stomps as evidence that he wants attention lol. They are saying that he demands a huge lead guitarist fee. I wish Chad T would come out with a statement and explain some of this. It seems weird that the Q anoner, the lead singer bonus guy, and criminal mastermind bill would be fully in the right on all this. Is it true?


In the many conversations I've had with Hynes, and I'd like to think I have a decent read on people, I've never had a feeling that he's a scumbag or more-so that he actually harassed that woman. Bill isn't the villain in the LIVE stuff. Ed isn't the villain either. It's a sad situation. And, yes, many of us are annoyed because going into 2017 we assumed that LIVE now had a re-birth and a new album was on the horizon. Starting in 2018, we got the greatest-hits tour going (though promoters probably forced this, and frankly money makes the world go-round) and never got anything more than the EP (again new music doesn't generate tons of dough, it's more an excuse to tour and get attention). What I do, truly, feel is based on the 2017 touring (I was totally blessed to get a 15-song showing in Chicago at the Park West, that I've shared the audio of in here) ... the guys initially set out to get the machine up-and-going. The internal problem or problems is what is showing it's ugly head now. I do know there's a podcast, from a bandmate, that'll soon come out and explain so much stuff.


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QUOTE(Srx17 @ Jun 6 2022, 11:16 am) *

I do know there's a podcast, from a bandmate, that'll soon come out and explain so much stuff.


We know the podcast is going to be Bill Hynes and will probably feature band mate CG.

I want to hear a neutral, outside podcaster ask drama-free Pat Dahlheimer what’s going on. Then I’ll take that seriously.

In fact the order of “whose sides” I’d want to hear would be:
Pat
Chad T.
Ed
Chad G.

I don’t wish to hear Hynes’ thoughts on ANY of it unless one of them accuses him of something pertinent to the break up of this band. Otherwise, shut up and stay out of it.


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Hoodstock   What's Going On? Is Live Over?   Jun 3 2022, 2:45 pm
Voodoo Lady   For what it’s worth, I noticed that Ed unfollowed ...   Jun 3 2022, 3:16 pm
Bremang   To quote Bremang, Bill Hynes is the Yoko Ono of...   Jun 4 2022, 2:41 am
Voodoo Lady   Did I say that? I don't recall. I don't t...   Jun 4 2022, 5:03 am
SJN1279   If you look at Ed's IG, he is no longer follow...   Jun 4 2022, 1:02 pm
Voodoo Lady   If you look at Ed's IG, he is no longer follo...   Jun 4 2022, 1:09 pm
The Thrill   For what it’s worth, I noticed that Ed unfollowed...   Jun 6 2022, 6:58 pm
Voodoo Lady   Cindy, I take it you have never listened to one L...   Jun 6 2022, 7:16 pm
The Thrill   Thank you for your best wishes. I’ve been a L...   Jun 6 2022, 7:21 pm
Voodoo Lady   Is it possible that since this is uncharted terri...   Jun 6 2022, 7:32 pm
The Thrill   A generalized hiatus statement during the height ...   Jun 6 2022, 7:42 pm
Voodoo Lady   I hear ya. Nobody is perfect. I bet all of them...   Jun 6 2022, 7:48 pm
Bremang   I along with Bob Zazerra went to and Ed solo sh...   Jun 6 2022, 8:04 pm
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alexou   All Bob ever wanted was to be deeply involved wit...   Jun 6 2022, 8:12 pm
The Thrill   Wait what? too much too handle tonight... I under...   Jun 6 2022, 8:15 pm
Bremang   .   Jun 6 2022, 8:18 pm
alexou   I'm just trolling the troll about the cheatin...   Jun 6 2022, 8:25 pm
Bremang   A lot of us got fooled by CT let's be hones...   Jun 6 2022, 8:29 pm
LiveForNow   Where can I find this video or post? I don't s...   Jun 3 2022, 6:53 pm
Bremang   Chad Taylor's FOL Tour Diary @ Dec 24, 2004   Jun 4 2022, 2:43 am
OutToDry   And out your feet in the water, put your head in t...   Jun 4 2022, 1:09 pm
Voodoo Lady   First music news outlet that I’ve seen give attent...   Jun 5 2022, 11:20 am
Voodoo Lady   I am just now seeing this on FoL Facebook page. No...   Jun 5 2022, 1:27 pm
Orion0767   I am just now seeing this on FoL Facebook page. N...   Jun 6 2022, 6:27 pm
Srx17   So I guess these comments were deleted from the F...   Jun 6 2022, 6:30 pm
Srx17   More explanation today, from the FB Page: [Bill ...   Jun 6 2022, 6:32 pm
Orion0767   He was originally talking about the new remixed t...   Jun 6 2022, 7:15 pm
Bremang   More explanation today, from the FB Page: [Bil...   Jun 6 2022, 7:06 pm
Bremang   "I met many women. I shared myself like never...   Jun 5 2022, 8:13 pm
Bremang   There's now an actual Yoko out there for Live ...   Jun 5 2022, 8:15 pm
The Thrill   There's now an actual Yoko out there for Live...   Jun 6 2022, 6:40 pm
alexou   Hopefully he finds a tall building and.... Le...   Jun 6 2022, 6:50 pm
The Thrill   Let's be better than this... for the rest, e...   Jun 6 2022, 6:54 pm
Bremang   The guitarist of Live is the Yoko ono of Live. ...   Jun 6 2022, 7:16 pm
The Thrill   I appreciate that you're alleging more of the...   Jun 6 2022, 7:29 pm
Orion0767   The guitarist of Live is the Yoko ono of Live. H...   Jun 6 2022, 8:22 pm
Bremang   I've been following the drama on the facebook...   Jun 6 2022, 1:22 am
grandfalloon   Clearly Bill read my recent repost of Chad's ...   Jun 6 2022, 9:26 am
Bremang   why are you so convinced that Bill Hynes is the...   Jun 6 2022, 6:33 pm
grandfalloon   I've been following the drama on the facebook...   Jun 6 2022, 9:52 am
Bremang   People saying Hynes is a criminal? More like fa...   Jun 6 2022, 6:54 pm
The Thrill   Well, Bill was convicted of a felony related to c...   Jun 6 2022, 7:14 pm
Bremang   I bounced a check in 2008. It wasn't a check...   Jun 6 2022, 7:18 pm
The Thrill   Well, Bill was convicted of a felony related to c...   Jun 6 2022, 7:16 pm
Srx17   We know the podcast is going to be Bill Hynes and...   Jun 6 2022, 3:51 pm
Bremang   I do know there's a podcast, from a bandmate...   Jun 6 2022, 7:00 pm
mattyeagles   No one is looking good in this situation. It’s od...   Jun 6 2022, 7:13 am
alexou   I laughed at the Chad T. asked for a lead guitar f...   Jun 6 2022, 10:25 am
The Thrill   I laughed at the Chad T. asked for a lead guitar ...   Jun 6 2022, 6:51 pm
alexou   Chad Taylor is a very talented musician. I won’t ...   Jun 6 2022, 6:55 pm
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alexou   To his defense. He always said he wasn’t a solo ...   Jun 6 2022, 7:05 pm
Bremang   I laughed at the Chad T. asked for a lead guitar ...   Jun 6 2022, 6:57 pm
alexou   fuck - TGF was literally up on spotify a couple d...   Jun 6 2022, 6:58 pm
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Badman   I had a thought recently on why we haven't hea...   Jun 6 2022, 4:56 pm
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The Thrill   Exactly It’s really not hard to figure out.   Jun 6 2022, 7:07 pm
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