Pick one album to remove from Live's discography., Only one! Options

[Bob]

Today's bonus tournament songs were from SFBM, which got me to review the album again to see if my not-so-favorable opinion on the album had changed, as I haven't listened to it much after it was released in 2006. Unfortunately, it did not. But then we got The Turn! I know that some don't like it for a myriad of reasons, but I really, really do, and still listen to it quite often.

SO! Here's a question for the masses that feel like answering a fun and light-hearted question on this Memorial Day: If you had the power to remove one album from Live's discography - like it never existed - which would you choose? SFBM or The Turn? Why? I, hands down, choose SFBM.

What about you? Why?

[Hoodstock]

I'd have to go with V. It was never meant to be an album and was pushed for release by the record company.

I think this album was a huge downward moment for the band that they never recovered from. There was no real radio support for the album, they lost many casual fans because of how weird the music was, and afterwards it was all downhill. I think a lot of what occurred afterward can be attributed to the fall from grace because of V.

Now I do love SC and TYL from this album. I wish they would have pushed back against MCA, released the songs for free as Ecstatic Fanatic that they wanted too, and developed a proper album like they intended. We'll never know what that album would have sounded like or what it would have done for the band.

Had the proper album been developed BOP and SFBM may not even had existed.

This post has been edited by Hoodstock: May 26 2020, 1:15 pm

[Bob]

I'd have to go with V. It was never meant to be an album and was pushed for release by the record company.

I think this album was a huge downward moment for the band that they never recovered from. There was no real radio support for the album, they lost many casual fans because of how weird the music was, and afterwards it was all downhill. I think a lot of what occurred afterward can be attributed to the fall from grace because of V.

Now I do love SC and TYL from this album. I wish they would have pushed back against MCA, released the songs for free as Ecstatic Fanatic that they wanted too, and developed a proper album like they intended. We'll never know what that album would have sounded like or what it would have done for the band.

Had the proper album been developed BOP and SFBM may not even had existed.

This is a really good point, but this also sticks in my craw, because if V was never meant to be an album, then why did they record all 14 songs? That must have cost them tens of thousands of dollars and months of time, and if they didn't like it, why did anything from it see the light of day? Why didn't they kill them all and start over while recording - or even demoing - them?

I think I'd have taken it easier on them had V been an EP that had Simple Creed, Deep Enough, FMNBLE, Overcome and The Ride on it.

CT said "The goal was to prepare songs for the next studio session. MCA got a hold of the material and pushed us to call it an album." Then he says they were going to be released for free, for the fans? That sounds like he's talking out of both sides of his mouth. Basically "we're going to release them to our hardcore fans for free", but they are mostly mediocre songs. I don't know how I feel about that. Also, it came out anyway, so the fans got it regardless.

You want to give the fans something special? How about release the songs from TDTH that never officially saw the light of day. Those tracks were (and still are) amazeballs. If V was the cutting room floor songs and alt versions from the TDTH sessions, I'd have been beside myself.

Also, two songs from V were used in huge movies (Deep Enough in Fast and the Furious, and FMNBLE in The Mummy Returns). Pretty good exposure there.

The history behind V is suspect for me, but your points are solid, Hoodstock.

Also, BOP is the album they wanted to make after V, so we kinda have our answer already. Look at where the musicianship was going around TDTH. BOP definitely has some ties to what TDTH started, even if we got a V in-between.

[Hoodstock]

Also, BOP is the album they wanted to make after V, so we kinda have our answer already. Look at where the musicianship was going around TDTH. BOP definitely has some ties to what TDTH started, even if we got a V in-between.

Not really, because a song like Simple Creed may have continued to develop and may have been the foundation for BOP. It may have had Heaven, but it could have been completely different.