Pick one album to remove from Live's discography., Only one! Options

[Bob]

Today's bonus tournament songs were from SFBM, which got me to review the album again to see if my not-so-favorable opinion on the album had changed, as I haven't listened to it much after it was released in 2006. Unfortunately, it did not. But then we got The Turn! I know that some don't like it for a myriad of reasons, but I really, really do, and still listen to it quite often.

SO! Here's a question for the masses that feel like answering a fun and light-hearted question on this Memorial Day: If you had the power to remove one album from Live's discography - like it never existed - which would you choose? SFBM or The Turn? Why? I, hands down, choose SFBM.

What about you? Why?

[Bob]

I'm choosing SFBM as well, but for completely different reasons.

When V came out, it was the first black mark I gave the band since I became a fan in 1996. They had a fantastic run of four solid albums, then V just mucked up the works, though we did get Simple Creed, Deep Enough (caveat: the live version is hands down better than the album version), and The Ride out of it.

They came back with BOP, which I adored, but then SFBM felt like they took all the "meh" songs from V that didn't make it and made an album full of them. The whole Mystery/AI thing just put me over the edge into "no thank you" territory. I don't think Live got any new fans from that brief 3 minutes of exposure, but who knows. I'd love to hear from them if they are on this board.

Then Ed leaves, Shinn arrives, The Turn comes along, and they sound and look revitalized. New rockin' songs. New rockin' singer that they've known for years that creates songs with deep, meaningful lyrics. There's heart and soul there. They looked happy onstage. They rocked the shit out of old and new songs. For the first time since 2000, I felt like *my* Live was back. Then in what feels like an instant, Shinn is gone, Ed is back, we eventually get Local 717, and it feels like we're back in 2006 again, and once more, I question their songwriting and musicianship. Oh my. I think I dislike 717 more than SFBM, and that's saying something.

So, if SFBM is removed from their discography, perhaps after Ed leaves he doesn't come back as he's got a blossoming solo career with Zak, Live still has Shinn, and instead of Local 717 with Ed, we get an EP with Shinn and we're currently waiting for a full album. I'd be OK with that.

Alternately, after Shinn leaves, Live goes on the hunt for a new lead singer and continues to this day with that new frontman.

Alternate take 2: The Gracious Few explodes, and each album has a new singer. TGF1 had Kevin Martin, TGF2 was with Chris Shinn, and TGF3 is currently in the works. Perhaps CCP pulls a Tool and all the music is done and they're currently auditioning new singers.

All of this leads me to say that I really hope Live's next album has more meat to it like The Turn had, and less filler like SFBM had.

This post has been edited by Bob: May 25 2020, 11:26 pm

[Voodoo Lady]

I'm choosing SFBM as well, but for completely different reasons.

When V came out, it was the first black mark I gave the band since I became a fan in 1996. They had a fantastic run of four solid albums, then V just mucked up the works, though we did get Simple Creed, Deep Enough (caveat: the live version is hands down better than the album version), and The Ride out of it.

They came back with BOP, which I adored, but then SFBM felt like they took all the "meh" songs from V that didn't make it and made an album full of them. The whole Mystery/AI thing just put me over the edge into "no thank you" territory. I don't think Live got any new fans from that brief 3 minutes of exposure, but who knows. I'd love to hear from them if they are on this board.

Then Ed leaves, Shinn arrives, The Turn comes along, and they sound and look revitalized. New rockin' songs. New rockin' singer that they've known for years that creates songs with deep, meaningful lyrics. There's heart and soul there. They looked happy onstage. They rocked the shit out of old and new songs. For the first time since 2000, I felt like *my* Live was back. Then in what feels like an instant, Shinn is gone, Ed is back, we eventually get Local 717, and it feels like we're back in 2006 again, and once more, I question their songwriting and musicianship. Oh my. I think I dislike 717 more than SFBM, and that's saying something.

So, if SFBM is removed from their discography, perhaps after Ed leaves he doesn't come back as he's got a blossoming solo career with Zak, Live still has Shinn, and instead of Local 717 with Ed, we get an EP with Shinn and we're currently waiting for a full album. I'd be OK with that.

Alternately, after Shinn leaves, Live goes on the hunt for a new lead singer and continues to this day with that new frontman.

Alternate take 2: The Gracious Few explodes, and each album has a new singer. TGF1 had Kevin Martin, TGF2 was with Chris Shinn, and TGF3 is currently in the works. Perhaps CCP pulls a Tool and all the music is done and they're currently auditioning new singers.

All of this leads me to say that I really hope Live's next album has more meat to it like The Turn had, and less filler like SFBM had.

Music is so subjective. While I don’t agree with some of your opinions and scenarios, especially this one, I would NOT be ok with:

So, if SFBM is removed from their discography, perhaps after Ed leaves he doesn't come back as he's got a blossoming solo career with Zak, Live still has Shinn, and instead of Local 717 with Ed, we get an EP with Shinn and we're currently waiting for a full album. I'd be OK with that.

I respect, and enjoy reading your takes on it all. I am with you 100%, in the hope that their new album has more meat and less filler.

Funny that we considered the time manipulation with simply removing an album from a discography.