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During the first leg of the Live / Bush #Alti-mate tour where Live was playing the same 14 track setlist night after night, a fan asked Chad Gracey on his Instagram page how many songs Live would be playing on their European tour.

Chad replied with "a lot"

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Now, that the European tour is over we finally know what 'a lot' means to Chad.

'A lot' is 17 songs. That was the greatest number of tracks performed on their 8 show tour.

Live played as few as 14 songs on the Euro tour (same as their co-headlining US tour), while the average for their solo shows was 16.

Do you think a headlining act touring a country where the biggest fans exist should play such a limited number of songs?

Is 95 minutes enough?

In my opinion the answer is a resounding "No" for both.

Live did try to mix things up a little - for example Overcome (full band and Ed solo), They Stood Up for Love were added. Shit Towne got an extended guitar solo from Chad Taylor. Ed venturing out into the crowd was cool... but Live needs to do more.


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When it comes to the setlist and its length, I am at the point where I just want to throw in the towel. But here goes.

Dream vs. expected vs. reality: A two hour plus Live heading show in a small venue (no other bands on the bill), with some deep cuts in the setlist would be my dream come true. What can be feasibly expected, based on price of concert tickets, 90 minutes with some surprises and shake ups to the setlist is what fans deserve for the money we pay. In reality, we get a 70 minute same ole thing, night after night, canned show.

However, I’ve got to accept that Live have made the decision to do the latter for some type of reasons. -I’d love to know them. It has to be based on someone’s lack of stamina, but whose? Is it Gracey? Are they worried about wrecking Ed’s voice? Is it Chad T. or Pat? As Merica said, props to the old guy McCartney. That is some CRAZY stamina for 77. Is he sitting at a piano most of the time, though? shrug.gif

When it comes to the setlist, the fact that it’s stagnant bothers me more than their show being 10 minutes shorter than what I expect. I can come up with no other reason than lack of effort. Wait, two reasons. Someone (I believe LiveForNow) mentioned in another thread, perhaps they are tied to their video in the background, and not being able to switch that up. Or maybe they have backing tracks (pretty positive they do), and can’t switch it up. The covers really irritate me, but with them, I don’t know why it does so much. Honestly, most other concerts I attend have covers, and I’m not bothered. With Live, is it because they haven’t yet covered a song I actually like? Is it because they are just my favorite band, and I’m selfish & only want to hear their stuff? In a perfect dream world, take the two covers out, and add in Hold Me Up and Susquehanna. I’m just trying to “be a good fan” and accept it is what it is, and we will never know the reason for their decisions (because no interviewer ever asks those questions!!! bomb.gif).

It could be way worse. I went to a Whitesnake show in the spring, and they only played 14 songs. It was the shortest show I’ve ever been to. I felt ripped off. They must have needed to get back to the nursing home.


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dangum   Chad Gracey thinks a 17 song setlist is 'a lot'   Jul 10 2019, 7:48 am
SecretInsomnia   Yeah, you’re right, they could do a lot more as th...   Jul 10 2019, 8:23 am
Voodoo Lady   Maybe we ask for too much No, we don’t. This ...   Jul 10 2019, 11:11 am
Possum Kingdom   No, we don’t. This band is jaded. And Chad G. i...   Jul 10 2019, 11:23 am
alexou   Agree...they should play at least 20. It's not...   Jul 10 2019, 10:00 am
Gruno   Do you think a headlining act touring a country wh...   Jul 10 2019, 12:41 pm
Gertjan   I would say it just enough. Any shorter and it wil...   Jul 10 2019, 1:38 pm
SJN1279   I'm happy with a 90 minute set. 70-90 minutes...   Jul 10 2019, 2:47 pm
Hoodstock   I'm happy with a 90 minute set. 70-90 minute...   Jul 12 2019, 5:58 am
LiveForNow   I'm happy with a 90 minute set. 70-90 minute...   Jul 18 2019, 7:04 pm
dangum   Let's keep this respectful and not turn it int...   Jul 18 2019, 8:55 pm
Bremang   Let's keep this respectful and not turn it in...   Jul 18 2019, 11:00 pm
LiveForNow   Let's keep this respectful and not turn it in...   Jul 19 2019, 2:47 am
Merica   2hrs > 90mins imo. Saying that, they're ge...   Jul 13 2019, 9:44 am
LiveForNow   For reference, Paul McCartney at age 77 played 38 ...   Jul 16 2019, 3:44 pm
Merica   For reference, Paul McCartney at age 77 played 38...   Jul 17 2019, 6:26 am
SJN1279   For reference, Paul McCartney at age 77 played 38...   Jul 17 2019, 8:04 am
mattyeagles   I would fall asleep. Quality over quantity any d...   Jul 17 2019, 8:57 am
Hoodstock   I would fall asleep. Quality over quantity any d...   Jul 17 2019, 3:24 pm
Hoodstock   I would fall asleep. Quality over quantity any d...   Jul 17 2019, 3:27 pm
Frasbul   To play devil's advocate: When I saw them in B...   Jul 17 2019, 7:20 am
+Ed+   Well, while completely irrelevant, i have an examp...   Jul 17 2019, 1:50 pm
Bremang   watch Hoodie come back with a third update ragging...   Jul 17 2019, 7:13 pm
Hoodstock   watch Hoodie come back with a third update raggin...   Jul 18 2019, 1:06 pm
Wambangalang   I don't know. I'm 35 and my endurance is p...   Jul 19 2019, 6:31 am
san_sao   I don't know. I'm 35 and my endurance is ...   Jul 20 2019, 9:35 am
jcs420x365   I'm 42, and I prefer shows to run a little cl...   Jul 20 2019, 10:46 am
Voodoo Lady   Oh, and having video is a bs excuse for not switc...   Jul 20 2019, 4:12 pm
Bob   I'm mixed on this topic, as IMO, 17 songs isn...   Jul 21 2019, 10:04 pm
jcs420x365   I did some research on a few other bands currentl...   Jul 30 2019, 9:39 am
Voodoo Lady   I'm 42, and I prefer shows to run a little cl...   Jul 20 2019, 4:05 pm
mattdm11   I guess be happy they are playing? I have no inte...   Jul 19 2019, 9:09 pm
ADAD   Here are my thoughts on the issue, disjointed as t...   Jul 22 2019, 12:05 am
ADAD   Comparing Live and Springsteen as concert performe...   Jul 31 2019, 6:19 pm
Lakini's Juice   Remember this legendary gig?   Aug 1 2019, 4:50 am
dangum   Remember [url=https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/live...   Aug 1 2019, 5:14 am
Hoodstock   Remember this legendary gig? The current setlist...   Aug 14 2019, 12:55 pm
Bremang   The current setlist is less than half of that co...   Aug 14 2019, 9:00 pm
dangum   pretty crazy setlist they played simple creed twi...   Aug 14 2019, 10:48 pm
dangum   The Eagles played a 3 hour, 34 track show a couple...   Feb 9 2020, 6:56 am
AManHasNoName   The Eagles played a 3 hour, 34 track show a coupl...   Feb 9 2020, 11:14 am
Voodoo Lady   Because they don't give enough of a shit. Whi...   Feb 9 2020, 11:41 pm
Hoodstock   Because they don't give enough of a shit. ....   Feb 10 2020, 9:00 pm
AManHasNoName   ... about their fans They care about the fans w...   Feb 12 2020, 2:28 pm
Bremang   The Eagles played a 3 hour, 34 track show a coupl...   Feb 10 2020, 12:46 am
LiveForNow   I also think Gracey doesn't like answering tho...   Aug 1 2019, 5:08 pm
Live4Life   Funny, I used to think 17 songs was a lot. Like o...   Aug 13 2019, 4:11 pm
Hoodstock   I don't think they really care at all. They s...   Feb 12 2020, 8:36 pm
mattyeagles   I don't think they really care at all. They ...   Feb 12 2020, 9:14 pm
clee984   Unfortunately, it’s tough to argue with any of th...   Feb 25 2020, 4:08 am


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