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https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/rockono...1278270986?mt=2

I haven't listened to it yet, but Chris talks about Live.

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Faking a break up, conning a billionaire into filling in, going into business with a convicted felon and conning said billionaire into investing with said felon, and then dropping said billionaire and faking a reunion is about all you can do when your last album was SFBM and you can’t write anything better than Love Lounge or Giver. The reason I rip on Live so hard is because they meant so much to me when I was growing up, and now I’ve grown up to realize they’re a bunch of uneducated redneck phonies who happened to write great music for about 8 years of their current 40+.

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QUOTE(Existentialist @ Nov 30 2018, 7:39 pm) *

Faking a break up, conning a billionaire into filling in, going into business with a convicted felon and conning said billionaire into investing with said felon, and then dropping said billionaire and faking a reunion is about all you can do when your last album was SFBM and you can’t write anything better than Love Lounge or Giver.


What a load of crap. Bremang should really write for the National Enquirer.

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The reason I rip on Live so hard is because they meant so much to me when I was growing up, and now I’ve grown up to realize they’re a bunch of uneducated redneck phonies who happened to write great music for about 8 years of their current 40+.


“Uneducated redneck phonies?!” I’m calling bull.— Līve never meant a thing to you growing up or you wouldn’t dare say such a thing.

I’m really not trying to be mean, but that sentence makes you sound certifiably insane. You really need to moooove on. Peace. You are blocked. I can’t take it anymore.


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QUOTE(Voodoo Lady @ Dec 1 2018, 1:10 am) *

What a load of crap. Bremang should really write for the National Enquirer.


We know Live are schemers and probably made way more $ from the breakup than if they stayed together so go figure

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QUOTE(Bremang @ Dec 1 2018, 10:24 am) *

We know Live are schemers and probably made way more $ from the breakup than if they stayed together so go figure


The nasty elements to the break up makes the break up legit. Those elements pushed a strong fanbase apart for no reason.


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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Dec 1 2018, 3:03 pm) *

The nasty elements to the break up makes the break up legit. Those elements pushed a strong fanbase apart for no reason.


Yeah like gracey complaining about glass which had no effect on eds ears, or how they belittled fans about being equal members and then put out a Live ep credited to zak loy and ed with new drummers, and all the nastiness from Ed, oh wait, he conveniently made no comment

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QUOTE(Bremang @ Dec 1 2018, 2:09 pm) *

Yeah like gracey complaining about glass which had no effect on eds ears, or how they belittled fans about being equal members and then put out a Live ep credited to zak loy and ed with new drummers, and all the nastiness from Ed, oh wait, he conveniently made no comment

Very legit


They had a public lawsuit. Why waste money on lawyers?


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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Dec 1 2018, 3:14 pm) *

They had a public lawsuit. Why waste money on lawyers?


They didnt waste money. it was a huge return on their investment. They became relevant again and made headlines. They were on radio, magazines, rolling stone. They also needed it to seem believable to stir up fan support. This is how you justify CCP going on tour without Ed. Filing a couple of complaints doesnt cost much. They didnt event litigate.

In 2005 Live couldnt sell out a bar in upstate NY. If they tried to write an album after sfbm and tour again it would be even worse. If not unsustainable. With the breakup and return they got top billing at festivals and had two sets of tours going. Wasn't it Otd who brought the court case to our attention?

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dangum   Chris Shinn interview on Rockonomics podcast   Nov 27 2018, 8:03 pm
Bremang   Nice find Dangum. Shinn fans will love this. Very ...   Nov 27 2018, 10:26 pm
Wambangalang   Says Live were begging Chris to act out and act ...   Nov 28 2018, 6:33 am
dangum   https://i.imgur.com/TefWD8u.jpg Edit: Link to...   Nov 28 2018, 6:41 am
dangum   Says Live has a business partner in United Fiber ...   Nov 28 2018, 8:31 am
Bremang   Definitely Bill Hynes. Bill had another go (or ...   Nov 28 2018, 8:40 pm
AManHasNoName   I think there are some truthfulness in some of the...   Nov 28 2018, 4:39 am
Possum Kingdom   I'm glad that we finally got to hear about his...   Nov 28 2018, 9:46 am
Voodoo Lady   Live sent in their pet dog to ruffle some feather...   Nov 28 2018, 11:14 am
Voodoo Lady   I’d like to add, that Shinn finally opening his mo...   Nov 28 2018, 11:17 am
promiseIma Livefan   I’d like to add, that Shinn finally opening...   Nov 29 2018, 8:13 am
Voodoo Lady   Whatever you think of Shinn please remember that ...   Nov 29 2018, 9:11 am
promiseIma Livefan   Just when in the heck was this ever verified, sai...   Nov 29 2018, 9:26 am
Voodoo Lady   And what was ever verified, said or published to ...   Nov 29 2018, 9:49 am
promiseIma Livefan   I can understand now how Shinn would be questione...   Nov 29 2018, 10:26 am
Voodoo Lady   Ok I lied about you having last word lol. You sai...   Nov 29 2018, 3:45 pm
promiseIma Livefan   Yes, because it would be disrespectful. So if you...   Nov 29 2018, 4:57 pm
mattyeagles   We are never going to agree, but two points. They...   Nov 29 2018, 8:47 pm
Bremang   And what was ever verified, said or published t...   Nov 29 2018, 9:03 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I’d like to add, that Shinn finally opening his m...   Nov 28 2018, 11:47 am
SecretInsomnia   Ok, what exactly happened in Australia?   Nov 28 2018, 5:45 pm
Hoodstock   I never liked Chris as part of the band, but wow...   Nov 28 2018, 7:33 pm
Existentialist   My opinion is that Chris was brought in for his ba...   Nov 28 2018, 5:51 pm
Bremang   My opinion is also that the LIVE boys have not m...   Nov 28 2018, 8:43 pm
Existentialist   If they're using other peoples money (Chris) ...   Nov 28 2018, 8:47 pm
Bremang   And, when a company is founded by a convicted co...   Nov 29 2018, 11:01 pm
AManHasNoName   I'm always alone on this one, but I still lik...   Nov 30 2018, 11:33 pm
Bremang   Could you imagine if the guys went through with th...   Nov 28 2018, 8:46 pm
mattyeagles   Could you imagine if the guys went through with t...   Nov 29 2018, 10:54 am
promiseIma Livefan   Yup, totally absurd that Chad considered rerecord...   Nov 29 2018, 11:35 am
likeido21   I had to read that twice cause I couldn't bel...   Nov 29 2018, 11:46 am
SecretInsomnia   I had to read that twice cause I couldn't bel...   Nov 29 2018, 11:47 am
promiseIma Livefan   Yeah and for what reason would they want a rereco...   Nov 29 2018, 12:04 pm
Bremang   What Chad said about Chris back when they kicked h...   Nov 28 2018, 8:52 pm
+Ed+   What Chad said about Chris back when they kicked ...   Nov 29 2018, 12:39 am
Bremang   ...so i will definitely delete the album from ou...   Nov 29 2018, 1:01 am
Hoodstock   Chris basically said they asked him to help to mak...   Nov 29 2018, 2:29 pm
Voodoo Lady   They then went back to Ed, didn't really put ...   Nov 29 2018, 3:14 pm
drewgood   There are always three sides to a story. One half...   Nov 29 2018, 4:38 pm
Bremang   Can we really say that Live has wiped away The Tur...   Nov 29 2018, 9:16 pm
mattyeagles   Can we really say that Live has wiped away The Tu...   Nov 29 2018, 9:39 pm
Bremang   Exactly. Let's keep in mind they also cons...   Nov 29 2018, 10:24 pm
mattyeagles   No. I was speculating that removing the Turn was ...   Nov 29 2018, 10:45 pm
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+Ed+   Keeping the turn confuses the casuals, removing t...   Nov 30 2018, 5:39 am
Lakini's Juice   This interview pretty much substantiates CCP weren...   Nov 30 2018, 4:32 am
Existentialist   What a load of crap. Bremang should really write ...   Dec 1 2018, 8:59 am
Bremang   .   Dec 1 2018, 2:38 pm
sellingthdrama   In 2005 Live couldnt sell out a bar in upstate NY...   Dec 2 2018, 9:31 pm
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