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post May 2 2017, 5:45 am
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As I mentioned in the Hold Me Up (studio) thread, I also came across a studio version of Susquehanna.

In terms of sound quality I think it's better than Hold Me Up, but this version of the track is different to the others circulating. It contains an extended outro which is absolutely amazing. This definitely requires its own thread.

You can download an mp3 from:
https://www.mediafire.com/?dod9u851a0dai0q

Somebody has also uploaded it to YouTube.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcivwE0bw28


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post May 2 2017, 9:46 am
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I think the same person transfered this that did Hold Me Up. I don't think it's playing at the intended speed, but it sounds quite nice played slightly slow. The extended outro is nice.


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post May 2 2017, 10:00 am
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QUOTE(ThrowgnCpr @ May 2 2017, 10:46 am) *
I think the same person transfered this that did Hold Me Up. I don't think it's playing at the intended speed, but it sounds quite nice played slightly slow. The extended outro is nice.



How would the tape transfer have anything to do with the speed of the recording? All the other songs on the source tape of TC songs are at normal speed.


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QUOTE(Bremang @ May 2 2017, 11:00 am) *

How would the tape transfer have anything to do with the speed of the recording? All the other songs on the source tape of TC songs are at normal speed.


It's very common problem, and has nothing to do with the recording on the tape, but the hardware used to transfer the tape.

The tape is fine, but the tape player wasn't playing at the correct speed. It could be power related, it could be faulty hardware. This is old, analog hardware, it's not at all surprising if it isn't functioning at 100%.

So, the TC demo tape that you're referencing is the same recording, but the version that is floating around was transferred by someone else. Whoever made this new transfer doesn't have their equipment running correctly.

I've transferred plenty of tapes and records to digital in the past. No matter how great the quality of the recording is, you're always going to be limited by your playback hardware. I had a great tape deck not too long ago, but it died. Even my new, decent quality Thorens turntable needs recalibrated from time to time (it is belt driven, not direct drive).


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So, the TC demo tape that you're referencing is the same recording, but the version that is floating around was transferred by someone else. Whoever made this new transfer doesn't have their equipment running correctly.


This is a new TC tape source with fully finished tracks. read the other thread. All the other tracks from this new source are proper speed and pitch

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QUOTE(Bremang @ May 2 2017, 11:19 am) *

This is a new TC tape source with fully finished tracks. read the other thread. All the other tracks from this new source are proper speed and pitch


I know what it is, and I'm telling you that whoever transferred these recordings has some issues with their hardware. This is a different tape (and different transfer) of the same recordings that we have been hearing for years.

This is probably a first generation tape, and a cleaner, complete transfer, but its the same recordings that were done in the 90s that we've heard.


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QUOTE(ThrowgnCpr @ May 2 2017, 4:22 pm) *

I know what it is, and I'm telling you that whoever transferred these recordings has some issues with their hardware. This is a different tape (and different transfer) of the same recordings that we have been hearing for years.

This is probably a first generation tape, and a cleaner, complete transfer, but its the same recordings that were done in the 90s that we've heard.


Possible that the condition of the tape itself might lead to tempo changes? I know Roger Taylor (of Queen) had some problems on his comprehensive remaster set of his solo career, that the master tapes stretched leading to the tracks being slightly slower than they should have been and also inconsistent, which was not fixed in the final release, despite being an artist on a major label, who's career has been meticulously detailed and carefully archived.

We would be talking about tapes potentially 25 years old here?


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dangum   Susquehanna (studio)   May 2 2017, 5:45 am
throwing_cheetahs   As I mentioned in the Hold Me Up (studio) thread,...   May 2 2017, 5:57 am
Voodoo Lady   LOVE!! Thank you for this. When they hit ...   May 2 2017, 7:51 am
Possum Kingdom   Thanks, Dan! That outro is damn nice.   May 2 2017, 8:53 am
Bremang   I know what it is, and I'm telling you that...   May 2 2017, 10:59 am
ThrowgnCpr   I doubt the management company of Live and other...   May 2 2017, 11:10 am
Bremang   Where is the new tape? Everything about the reco...   May 2 2017, 11:22 am
ThrowgnCpr   Hey man, honestly i usually enjoy arguing live st...   May 2 2017, 11:30 am
Bremang   Are you kidding? I'm telling you, I've li...   May 2 2017, 1:15 pm
ThrowgnCpr   Then recognize we have been in agreement that the...   May 2 2017, 1:42 pm
Bremang   Possible that the condition of the tape itself ...   May 3 2017, 2:03 pm
Bremang   hey keep your head up, the more live-heads togethe...   May 2 2017, 2:16 pm
ThrowgnCpr   hey keep your head up, the more live-heads togeth...   May 2 2017, 2:28 pm
Hoodstock   Awesome find Dangum!   May 2 2017, 7:18 pm
san_sao   This thread is like reading a headache, lol.   May 2 2017, 8:06 pm
alexou   This thread is like reading a headache, lol. Ye...   May 3 2017, 9:27 am
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ThrowgnCpr   Welcome back! I was hoping you would have rea...   May 3 2017, 6:23 pm
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