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post Oct 26 2016, 1:49 am
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I think the first thing might be SS related, but i'm up for anything as i'm sure most fans are. Have at it, what do you think!?

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Maybe this is a bump back on topic...

I re-watched some tracks from Paradiso recently and it struck me hard and Cold to notice how choppy the editing was of that DVD - in fact the quick cuts alone made it almost unpleasant to watch...but worse I noticed for the first time how all of the edits and footage seemed designed to place Ed at the front and centre of everything.

Don't take this the wrong way; I'm not trying to start a war. Re-watch it for yourself and u will notice too that it's 90% Ed and few steady long band shots - ive been to liVe concerts and Ed shows and I KNOW they are a good enough band to nail DVD quality takes of songs without them having to be chopped up and edited into a whole.

So it got me thinking as to why this was the case...I looked at the cover and remembered CT complaints about ed being only one in colour and it dawned on me...it was choppily edited and poorly framed intentionally to keep Ed at the front - it was Ed Kowalczyk Live at the Paradiso with LiVe.

Not at all LIVE at the Paradiso.

So what do I expect from LiVe now and into the future?

I hope that the ego is left at the door and Ed realizes once and for all that it's not about Him.

The songs, the band, the fans are bigger than the words he wrote and chords he strummed - it's about US not just Ed.

We deserve him to sing those songs for US the fans to lift us up and bring us together - LiVe are one of the few remaining Bands on the PLANET who are capable of doing this. U2 in their day, Springsteen and others who see their job not as 2 hours of music but as a communal, a gathering, a rising. A moment out of time where people can forget all of the fucked up bullshit that's going on around the world and soar with the music regardless of whether they have money or are of a certain race or set of beliefs.

If Ed and CT and the guys realize that this is it for them - their last stop before a nostalgia act and they are dead serious about making real music again. Then this is what I expect from LiVe..

I expect Ed to go out with His brothers and shred his voice every night like the boss, I expect him to reach deep within himself and find the guts to admit he wouldn't be nothing but an old bald drunk from York if it wasn't for the fans and the music and repay each and every one of us with the performances and passion we deserve.

Run to the water, lightning crashes, heaven, tsufl, lakini, O S, wings, S T D, etc....

These songs are bigger than LiVe and if the band delivers them to us in the way we deserve and the way the songs deserve.

We will give them the best fucking shows they can imagine.

Those fans at Paradiso got ripped off - it was a bullshit wankfest for Ed and his projected high voice. And they still sung every word and made it magic - the fans - not the band.

If the same show happens again and my favorite band LiVe shows up and really plays - REALLY - plays like they mean it. None of us will care if they ever sell a record again - they'll be doing what they were meant to do. Lift people up and bring them together by the power of their music.

I don't think I'm expecting too much...


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throwing_cheetahs   What to expect from +Live+...   Oct 26 2016, 1:49 am
LiveForNow   I think the first thing might be SS related, but ...   Oct 26 2016, 3:38 am
throwing_cheetahs   I really hope its remasters and not re-recordings....   Oct 26 2016, 8:00 am
Unsheathed   I mostly expect interviews and maybe some shows be...   Oct 26 2016, 8:17 am
Voodoo Lady   I mostly expect interviews and maybe some shows b...   Oct 26 2016, 5:48 pm
LiveForNow   Definitely interviews... I think they should rele...   Oct 26 2016, 7:14 pm
sellingthdrama   The realistic expectation is something similar to ...   Oct 26 2016, 7:18 am
mattyeagles   Hope no re-recondings. I'd be fine with BOP ...   Oct 26 2016, 8:13 am
Unsheathed   Hope no re-recondings. I'd be fine with BOP...   Oct 26 2016, 8:25 am
TonyD   Don't expect anything, be glad it happened. T...   Oct 26 2016, 8:29 am
vivapokey   Realistically, I expect a really diplomatic approa...   Oct 26 2016, 8:54 am
Tips   Eurm... "Ed is back"? Because Ed and Cha...   Oct 26 2016, 9:15 am
mattyeagles   Eurm... "Ed is back"? Because Ed and Ch...   Oct 26 2016, 9:25 am
TonyD   Eurm... "Ed is back"? Because Ed and Ch...   Oct 26 2016, 9:27 am
Mr. Larson   The 4 guys were seen together at a restaurant bef...   Oct 26 2016, 10:13 am
vivapokey   Can you or the poster who said it, actually lay p...   Oct 26 2016, 11:10 am
Bremang   .   Oct 26 2016, 1:05 pm
throwing_cheetahs   No one said Chad G. and Patrick were even on speak...   Oct 26 2016, 2:31 pm
Tips   Based on the radio broadcast, Ed didn't work ...   Oct 26 2016, 9:44 am
TonyD   Oh, that's interesting then. Well I've se...   Oct 26 2016, 9:57 am
sh4rpz   I think I would be satisfied with re-issue of the ...   Oct 26 2016, 10:10 am
Hoodstock   Would also like to see what Ed does with tracks o...   Oct 26 2016, 6:46 pm
LiveForNow   I think I would be satisfied with re-issue of the...   Oct 26 2016, 7:20 pm
sellingthdrama   I do not think the Turn or Chris will ever be m...   Oct 26 2016, 8:12 pm
Voodoo Lady   I wish they would dip into BOP a bit - Like I Do,...   Oct 26 2016, 8:23 pm
sh4rpz   I do not think the Turn or Chris will ever be men...   Oct 27 2016, 8:31 am
Shared Belief   I'd be surprised if we hear any songs post TD...   Oct 27 2016, 8:41 am
Shared Belief   maybe a reunion tour with also having shinn and tg...   Oct 26 2016, 11:30 am
TonyD   maybe a reunion tour with also having shinn and t...   Oct 26 2016, 11:36 am
Shared Belief   Live isn't Live unless it's the 4 origina...   Oct 26 2016, 11:49 am
TonyD   you are right. it isnt van halen. van halen coul...   Oct 26 2016, 11:57 am
briburge   LOL, one of the best shows I saw them was at litt...   Oct 26 2016, 1:43 pm
LiveForNow   LOL, one of the best shows I saw them was at litt...   Oct 26 2016, 6:36 pm
Voodoo Lady   maybe a reunion tour with also having shinn and t...   Oct 26 2016, 5:37 pm
LiveForNow   Live and TGF would sorta be like Mötley and Sixx ...   Oct 26 2016, 7:05 pm
sellingthdrama   Shinn got worse as it went along. I saw them on...   Oct 26 2016, 8:15 pm
Voodoo Lady   Shinn got worse as it went along. I saw them on S...   Oct 26 2016, 8:21 pm
Unsheathed   I appreciate your insight on the downward spiral ...   Oct 27 2016, 7:20 am
sh4rpz   Shinn got worse as it went along. I saw them on S...   Oct 27 2016, 8:29 am
Shared Belief   it is good that ed is in a proper band again tho   Oct 26 2016, 1:21 pm
throwing_cheetahs   I am really surprised at all the folks who want an...   Oct 26 2016, 2:44 pm
sh4rpz   I am really surprised at all the folks who want a...   Oct 27 2016, 8:25 am
TonyD   I wish they'd continued with CS, but it is ...   Oct 27 2016, 8:35 am
sellingthdrama   If we have to use The Paradiso DVD as a referenc...   Oct 27 2016, 9:04 am
Tips   Well if they are back then that's amazing news...   Oct 27 2016, 6:03 am
+Ed+   Hopefully it's old Ed... Noone is getting yo...   Oct 27 2016, 10:21 am
alexou   Not to give an excuse for Shinn's performance ...   Oct 27 2016, 12:33 pm
SJN1279   I actually think that we are getting a new studio ...   Oct 27 2016, 8:12 pm
mfitz804   I actually think that we are getting a new studio...   Oct 27 2016, 9:15 pm
Unsheathed   I actually think that we are getting a new studio...   Oct 28 2016, 7:21 am
vivapokey   I would assume they're doing something in the ...   Oct 28 2016, 7:35 am
sellingthdrama   It dawned on me (warning: speculation ahead) that ...   Oct 28 2016, 10:12 am
mfitz804   It dawned on me (warning: speculation ahead) that...   Oct 28 2016, 1:17 pm
vivapokey   That's possible. Also I'm guessing its par...   Oct 28 2016, 10:31 am
Voodoo Lady   Yea, it was speculated here before that the websit...   Oct 28 2016, 11:10 am
vivapokey   It also wouldn't surprise me that they are sim...   Oct 28 2016, 11:46 am
sellingthdrama   It also wouldn't surprise me that they are si...   Oct 28 2016, 12:51 pm
alexou   If marketing was even part of the reason for the ...   Oct 28 2016, 1:04 pm
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vivapokey   I think if it was - just - simply to create a buz...   Oct 29 2016, 12:22 am
Voodoo Lady   Nah I think a long break works more effectively. ...   Oct 29 2016, 12:34 pm
odoyle   i wonder if ed came to a compromise on all the bad...   Oct 28 2016, 2:04 pm
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