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post Jan 5 2017, 2:55 pm
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Both in style and sound... do you consider it a Live album?
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post Jan 9 2017, 5:45 pm
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I don't consider it a Live album just like I don't consider Stone Temple Pilots with Chester Bennington an STP album.

Like I said when they came out with The Turn they should have done the same thing with their album. If they would have presented as "Live with / featuring Chris Shinn" they would have avoided a lot of fan drama. They probably also could have kept the album up for sale with the return of Ed.
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post Jan 11 2017, 9:57 pm
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QUOTE(Hoodstock @ Jan 9 2017, 4:45 pm) *

I don't consider it a Live album just like I don't consider Stone Temple Pilots with Chester Bennington an STP album.

Like I said when they came out with The Turn they should have done the same thing with their album. If they would have presented as "Live with / featuring Chris Shinn" they would have avoided a lot of fan drama. They probably also could have kept the album up for sale with the return of Ed.


And yet the same principle remains. It's still an STP album.

And no, they wouldn't have avoided "fan drama" because that is what most fans are good for. You can can please all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time, but... you can figure the rest.
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And yet the same principle remains. It's still an STP album.

And no, they wouldn't have avoided "fan drama" because that is what most fans are good for. You can can please all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time, but... you can figure the rest.


It's STP, "With Chester Bennington". Pretty clear he is not STP. Live should have done the same promotion with Shinn. He was with Live.

There was no drama with STP fans. The band made it clear that they were STP minus Scott. They didn't tour as just STP like Live did. There was no "who is better" crap, or a Scott and Chester fan base rift simply because of how the band presented itself.

The way Live proceeded did cause fan drama. Just read the boards.

Regardless, it is extremely sad that there will never be another STP album with the original lineup again. No reunion can ever occur. Enjoy what we have with Live.

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QUOTE(Hoodstock @ Jan 14 2017, 9:35 pm) *

It's STP, "With Chester Bennington". Pretty clear he is not STP. Live should have done the same promotion with Shinn. He was with Live.

There was no drama with STP fans. The band made it clear that they were STP minus Scott. They didn't tour as just STP like Live did. There was no "who is better" crap, or a Scott and Chester fan base rift simply because of how the band presented itself.

The way Live proceeded did cause fan drama. Just read the boards.

Regardless, it is extremely sad that there will never be another STP album with the original lineup again. No reunion can ever occur. Enjoy what we have with Live.


Oh, there was a pretty massive rift in the STP fan community. Next to that, the rift in the Live fan base looks kind of quaint, actually.
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SinfulEyes   Live - The Turn   Jan 5 2017, 2:55 pm
AManHasNoName   https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e6/Liv...   Jan 5 2017, 2:58 pm
jclive   I didn't when it came out, and I still don...   Jan 5 2017, 3:36 pm
Possum Kingdom   I didn't when it came out, and I still don...   Jan 5 2017, 3:39 pm
But Not Broken   if Live put it out, then it's a Live album. Pr...   Jan 5 2017, 3:37 pm
Voodoo Lady   I am in agreement with fans above, that they shoul...   Jan 5 2017, 4:48 pm
mfitz804   I am in agreement with fans above, that they shou...   Jan 5 2017, 9:24 pm
AManHasNoName   It is/was Chad, Chad, Chris, and Pat's album t...   Jan 5 2017, 4:59 pm
Frasbul   I consider it a good album. But not a Live album. ...   Jan 5 2017, 5:42 pm
Wambangalang   Definitely Live to me with Siren's Call and WO...   Jan 5 2017, 5:54 pm
TheBeacon   It was cool at the time but looking back now I thi...   Jan 5 2017, 8:44 pm
stuker   It was cool at the time but looking back now I th...   Jan 7 2017, 10:03 am
Merica   Speaking of Live 2.0, do we need to retroactively ...   Jan 7 2017, 11:18 am
Holy Slime   My opinion now is the same as it was when they hir...   Jan 7 2017, 5:23 pm
Merica   Obvs.   Jan 6 2017, 8:42 am
AManHasNoName   In both style and sound, how similar are Secret Sa...   Jan 7 2017, 12:49 pm
Pingfah   I don't consider it a Live album just like I ...   Jan 27 2017, 5:24 am
Hoodstock   You're absolutely correct of course, that was...   Apr 3 2017, 6:04 am
Pingfah   More like an EP featuring members of STP. If you...   Apr 3 2017, 8:25 am
Bremang   Except that it says The Gracious Few on the cov...   Apr 3 2017, 4:29 pm
alexou   It is Live by name but is sounds more like The Gr...   Apr 3 2017, 10:20 pm
Bremang   Sorry to disagree here. Big difference between...   Apr 4 2017, 12:51 am
alexou   Hey it's okay to disagree "In fact...   Apr 4 2017, 11:44 am
throwing_cheetahs   In fact, the Turn has some of the old Live sounds ...   Apr 4 2017, 5:28 am
Hoodstock   What you "consider" to be a Live album ...   Apr 4 2017, 12:51 pm
Pingfah   What you tell me to consider is also irrelevant. ...   Apr 6 2017, 5:46 am
Merica   Looks like the bulk of the crowd considers The Tur...   Jan 11 2017, 12:42 pm
SinfulEyes   Looks like the bulk of the crowd considers The Tu...   Jan 15 2017, 10:03 pm
Frasbul   Very offtopic. But I cannot be the only one who th...   Jan 11 2017, 7:26 pm
Bremang   Very offtopic. But I cannot be the only one who t...   Jan 15 2017, 3:49 am
World Dreamer   AIC has been touring for years. Is Layne still ali...   Jan 12 2017, 1:57 pm
Merica   People can argue until the end of time about wheth...   Apr 5 2017, 7:50 am

 

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