The '1998-era' Options

[SecretInsomnia]

Looking to Live's history, each era before and after and album and also their touring history, I still find 1998 the most interesting. I don't know what that is exactly, but first of all they were creative, experimantal, rocking and also very productively (there are many songs from this era). Listen to Don't Wait, Deeper and Vine Street in one row. Wait, was that all from one era, so different but quality songs? And they didn't even use it...? Also I think it was the last time they wrote songs together (?), although the tracklisting of what became TDTH wasn't what they all agreed on.

Maybe this is, closely after TC, the style of Live that I liked the most, although it's a shame that many of the songs aren't available in good quality or ended up quite differently then the versions created in 1998.

The setlists, although I don't think they toured much, are quite rare and cool too. For example: Sun, Don't Wait, New City, They Stood Up for Love, Still Aroused, Wash the Blood Away, Change, Lakini's Juice in one row and that's it! (March 8, 1998). See more at: http://www.setlist.fm/setlists/live-13d6b90d.html?page=74 . And don't forget the recorded songs from the demo(?) Pelgrimage to the Southern Stars (quite a different album from TDTH) and all the rare songs that we don't even know exactly know about.

Too bad the only video I find on youtube is Meltdown (first video I ever saw together with Chris Thorn!):



I think I have a few other songs from this show as well somewhere on my computer. But that's really it. There is still talk of a recording of New City around this time tough)

Last remarkable thing is the change in Ed as a frontman:
I was watching this two video's yesterday and thought: how did this happen?
Lakini's Juice, SNL, 1997: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M53lerFTcXA
Lakini's Juice, Woodstock 1999: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-W1-KXm-dM
I like both Eds, but they're quite different. In two years from the crazy, weird, sometimes dark and totally giving his all Secret Samadhi-Ed, to the more friendly, dancing, smiling Ed, making more connection to the audience. Still very good tough, but somewhere in 1998 something changed, didn't it? Or did the bright tone of TDTH changed his performance?

What do you think of the era between SS and TDTH? And does anyone have more footage of them playing?

This post has been edited by SecretInsomnia: Jan 11 2017, 8:01 am

[TheBeacon]

I feel they could have taken many of the outtakes from TDTH and made a great album for V instead of what ended up on V. It kind of would have made V really TDTH 2 but it was still the same era so it would have worked. Instead V was really the beginning of the end for LIVE. Having said that I still followed every thing they did all through those years and have done great memories from that time period.

[SJN1279]

I feel they could have taken many of the outtakes from TDTH and made a great album for V instead of what ended up on V. It kind of would have made V really TDTH 2 but it was still the same era so it would have worked. Instead V was really the beginning of the end for LIVE. Having said that I still followed every thing they did all through those years and have done great memories from that time period.

In 2001, music changed, and 90's bands and their music were mostly sent out to pasture. A Live album sounding like TDTH would have been great, but wouldn't have given Live any additional success.

[TheBeacon]

In 2001, music changed, and 90's bands and their music were mostly sent out to pasture. A Live album sounding like TDTH would have been great, but wouldn't have given Live any additional success.

I think if the marketing was done right V could have been a huge success. Consider this.......

Deep Enough first single and is marketed with Fast and Furious
Forever May Not Be Long Enough second single and marketed with The Mummy Returns

All this before the album even drops!
Then release the album in July when they first released several clips of the upcoming album. Anyone remember this?

Third single to promote album release Simple Creed. Would have have been a great summer song.

Then due to tragic circumstances we would have gotten Ovecome next. LIVE would have been all over the radio in 2001!

Actual album in no particular order

Don't Wait
Change
Deeper
New City
Overcome
Deep Enough
Simple Creed
Transmit your love
Forever May Not Be Long Enough
People Like You
Flow
Hero of Love
Nobody Knows
Radiant Sea

[Orion0767]

I think if the marketing was done right V could have been a huge success. Consider this.......

Deep Enough first single and is marketed with Fast and Furious
Forever May Not Be Long Enough second single and marketed with The Mummy Returns

All this before the album even drops!
Then release the album in July when they first released several clips of the upcoming album. Anyone remember this?

Third single to promote album release Simple Creed. Would have have been a great summer song.

Then due to tragic circumstances we would have gotten Ovecome next. LIVE would have been all over the radio in 2001!

Actual album in no particular order

Don't Wait
Change
Deeper
New City
Overcome
Deep Enough
Simple Creed
Transmit your love
Forever May Not Be Long Enough
People Like You
Flow
Hero of Love
Nobody Knows
Radiant Sea

This !!! I have no idea who handled the marketing for the band at this time and around the time of V, BOP and SFBM but in my opinion, once we hit the V era the band was never promoted to their full potential and it is something that I have never, ever understood. Nothing like the things mentioned here were done and just think about when Live appeared with Chris Daughtry on American Idol. I mean, how many people saw that ? And nothing came of it. Millions of people .... Then just a few years later, Live as we knew it - done. I just think there were some major opportunities lost and it seemed to happen more than what it should have ( or at least I think so ). Granted, the music industry changed in a major way right around this time but there are a lot of bands from this era who just faded away simply because they really weren't that talented also. Seeing Live live several times throughout the years and following the band for as long as I have, I happen to think that these four guys are extremely talented. So I am right there with you. I know it doesn't matter now and I am no marketing guru but I wish some things had been done differently for them.