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SecretInsomnia
post Jan 11 2017, 7:53 am
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Looking to Live's history, each era before and after and album and also their touring history, I still find 1998 the most interesting. I don't know what that is exactly, but first of all they were creative, experimantal, rocking and also very productively (there are many songs from this era). Listen to Don't Wait, Deeper and Vine Street in one row. Wait, was that all from one era, so different but quality songs? And they didn't even use it...? Also I think it was the last time they wrote songs together (?), although the tracklisting of what became TDTH wasn't what they all agreed on.

Maybe this is, closely after TC, the style of Live that I liked the most, although it's a shame that many of the songs aren't available in good quality or ended up quite differently then the versions created in 1998.

The setlists, although I don't think they toured much, are quite rare and cool too. For example: Sun, Don't Wait, New City, They Stood Up for Love, Still Aroused, Wash the Blood Away, Change, Lakini's Juice in one row and that's it! (March 8, 1998). See more at: http://www.setlist.fm/setlists/live-13d6b90d.html?page=74 . And don't forget the recorded songs from the demo(?) Pelgrimage to the Southern Stars (quite a different album from TDTH) and all the rare songs that we don't even know exactly know about.

Too bad the only video I find on youtube is Meltdown (first video I ever saw together with Chris Thorn!):



I think I have a few other songs from this show as well somewhere on my computer. But that's really it. There is still talk of a recording of New City around this time tough)

Last remarkable thing is the change in Ed as a frontman:
I was watching this two video's yesterday and thought: how did this happen?
Lakini's Juice, SNL, 1997: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M53lerFTcXA
Lakini's Juice, Woodstock 1999: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-W1-KXm-dM
I like both Eds, but they're quite different. In two years from the crazy, weird, sometimes dark and totally giving his all Secret Samadhi-Ed, to the more friendly, dancing, smiling Ed, making more connection to the audience. Still very good tough, but somewhere in 1998 something changed, didn't it? Or did the bright tone of TDTH changed his performance?

What do you think of the era between SS and TDTH? And does anyone have more footage of them playing?

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I feel they could have taken many of the outtakes from TDTH and made a great album for V instead of what ended up on V. It kind of would have made V really TDTH 2 but it was still the same era so it would have worked. Instead V was really the beginning of the end for LIVE. Having said that I still followed every thing they did all through those years and have done great memories from that time period.


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SecretInsomnia   The '1998-era'   Jan 11 2017, 7:53 am
Merica   I think I have a few other songs from this show as...   Jan 11 2017, 8:07 am
Bremang   Merica, convince Jimmy to play the video on his co...   Jan 11 2017, 2:17 pm
Merica   Merica, convince Jimmy to play the video on his c...   Jan 12 2017, 4:31 am
alexou   Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat. :omg: Yeah I know...   Jan 12 2017, 2:04 pm
Merica   Yeah I know when I wrote this I found it a bit we...   Jan 13 2017, 5:24 am
andymbj   I dunno man. I really love it. Maybe one day we...   Jan 13 2017, 6:10 am
Merica   I really hope we do. I love Ed's vocals at th...   Jan 13 2017, 7:17 am
Voodoo Lady   I often wonder what flipped the switch for Ed, too...   Jan 11 2017, 8:42 am
Deku   This is the era when I joined the party, I got TDT...   Jan 11 2017, 9:33 am
san_sao   This was easily my favorite Live period. I am sti...   Jan 11 2017, 9:47 am
throwing_cheetahs   Deeper, Still Aroused, and Don't Wait.These s...   Jan 11 2017, 3:06 pm
alexou   These songs are average at best. I agree. Maybe...   Jan 11 2017, 4:15 pm
san_sao   These songs are average at best. That's how...   Jan 11 2017, 7:43 pm
san_sao   That's how I feel about The Distance and FTQR...   Jan 11 2017, 7:47 pm
Pingfah   I saw them on the SS tour, and it was one of the b...   Jan 11 2017, 11:37 am
mfitz804   Regarding the SNL performance, he was doing all of...   Jan 11 2017, 11:49 am
Voodoo Lady   Regarding the SNL performance, he was doing all o...   Jan 11 2017, 12:11 pm
Gagball   Speaking of SNL clothes, what's that symbol m...   Jan 11 2017, 5:06 pm
+Ed+   Tdth was my first Live album. I still consider td...   Jan 11 2017, 12:42 pm
Possum Kingdom   Mr Rogers was never my fucking neighbor! Not ...   Jan 11 2017, 6:55 pm
Hoodstock   I'll never forget the show in Detroit on 2/27/...   Jan 11 2017, 8:19 pm
mfitz804   I'll never forget the show in Detroit on 2/27...   Jan 11 2017, 8:33 pm
Hoodstock   Saw them in NYC two days before. No strippers, bu...   Jan 11 2017, 9:56 pm
SJN1279   I feel they could have taken many of the outtakes...   Jan 12 2017, 10:52 am
mattyeagles   In 2001, music changed, and 90's bands and th...   Jan 12 2017, 12:44 pm
TheBeacon   In 2001, music changed, and 90's bands and th...   Jan 12 2017, 5:26 pm
alexou   I think if the marketing was done right V could h...   Jan 12 2017, 9:23 pm
san_sao   Actual album in no particular order Don't W...   Jan 12 2017, 9:48 pm
Orion0767   I think if the marketing was done right V could h...   Jan 12 2017, 9:49 pm
Hoodstock   I feel they could have taken many of the outtakes...   Jan 13 2017, 3:59 pm
throwing_cheetahs   It's was my understanding that V was originall...   Jan 13 2017, 5:16 pm
mfitz804   It was released as an official album because it w...   Jan 13 2017, 7:20 pm
Hoodstock   It was released as an official album because it w...   Jan 14 2017, 9:20 pm
vivapokey   LOL! Regardless, that wasn't the intent ...   Jan 15 2017, 5:42 am
mfitz804   Did we ever get any confirmation/denial by anyone...   Jan 15 2017, 11:35 am
Hoodstock   Did we ever get any confirmation/denial by anyone...   Jan 15 2017, 11:52 am
LanceManion   Don't know. That's just the story I rem...   Jan 15 2017, 12:12 pm
vivapokey   Don't know. That's just the story I rem...   Jan 15 2017, 2:08 pm
throwing_cheetahs   LOL! Regardless, that wasn't the intent ...   Jan 15 2017, 5:58 pm
TheBeacon   It's was my understanding that V was original...   Jan 13 2017, 8:06 pm
Bremang   Jimmy had some harsh words for Ed during the break...   Jan 12 2017, 7:02 am
Hoodstock   My fear with a New City release is that has been s...   Jan 12 2017, 8:50 am
Merica   My fear with a New City release is that has been ...   Jan 12 2017, 10:45 am
World Dreamer   I will save you all some time. Jimmy is not going ...   Jan 12 2017, 3:32 pm
fandelive   I can remember a woman named Susan. She used to c...   Jan 14 2017, 9:46 am
fandelive   If anyone wants to contact her about sharing that...   Jan 14 2017, 9:57 am
san_sao   I remember there was a request to fans to send FMN...   Jan 15 2017, 3:51 pm
World Dreamer   All I know is CT was pissed they made him lose wei...   Jan 16 2017, 12:10 am
Live4Life   All I know is CT was pissed they made him lose we...   Jan 16 2017, 8:40 pm
dangum   Wait what? Who made him lose weight? I never hear...   Jan 16 2017, 9:24 pm
Bremang   Chad was very unhealthy trying to become thinner w...   Jan 16 2017, 2:49 am
Bremang   Oh, maybe he was healthy. Hopefully he had a sport...   Jan 16 2017, 10:13 pm
World Dreamer   Oh, maybe he was healthy. Hopefully he had a spor...   Jan 17 2017, 1:59 pm
World Dreamer   Seriously though...if you are a MAJOR band, is it ...   Jan 17 2017, 2:09 pm
mfitz804   Seriously though...if you are a MAJOR band, is it...   Jan 17 2017, 7:59 pm
san_sao   And you either play the game or you make shitty a...   Jan 18 2017, 5:10 pm
Bremang   Lets fat shame chad into losing weight and get him...   Jan 17 2017, 11:24 pm
World Dreamer   Lets fat shame chad into losing weight and get hi...   Jan 18 2017, 10:51 am
Bremang   Just go on social media and call him chunky or por...   Jan 18 2017, 4:04 pm
dangum   What do you think of the era between SS and TDTH? ...   Feb 10 2017, 11:54 pm
drewgood   Here is more footage from a 1998 Chameleon Club s...   Feb 11 2017, 4:16 pm
SecretInsomnia   Thanks Dan!   Feb 11 2017, 11:10 am
SecretInsomnia   Here’s a video I came across, that although it’s n...   May 3 2020, 6:32 am
Bremang   Here's a video I came across, that although i...   May 3 2020, 4:21 pm
Hoodstock   Here’s a video I came across, that although it’s ...   May 4 2020, 8:14 pm
Bremang   1998 was probably the best time to see them in c...   May 4 2020, 8:52 pm
Hoodstock   siren free? you mean the demo? Probably, also h...   May 5 2020, 4:57 pm
Plive   I sure still wait for Change as it seem to be a gr...   May 3 2020, 1:33 pm


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