The last 4 years were just a dream! Options

[Tips]

"Chris who? Oh yeah, the singer from Blind Melon and Unified Theory? Yeah we toured with him at some point in the 90's. Nice guy.

The Turn? What is that? We have a record called The Turn? No, the last Live record was Songs From Black Mountain. Or maybe you're thinking of our live album but that was called Live at the Paradiso.

Siren's Call? Well Chad has a riff that sounds like that but it was never used on a song.

No the band went on hiatus in 2009, Ed did his two solo records and the rest of the guys formed The Gracious Few but that's it. So I don't know what you guys are on about with Chris Shinn and The Turn or whatever it's supposed to be called.

Oh yeah and this is a picture of us now. Yeah yeah we all look like that, it's not an old picture. "

Does anyone else get the feeling that this is how this whole relaunch is? Like they're trying to pretend like nothing since 2012 happened and that everything was always good between them. I feel disrespected as a fan that they would obliterate the last 4 years. Those years happened, they're part of Live's history. They all should man up and stay honest with their us. And I say 'all' not to put the 'blame' on one person because we don't know how it works behind closed doors.

You know, not wanting to play any of The Turn live is one thing. Not even putting the record on the official website, that's just being revisionists.

[Bremang]

Shinn is quiet as a mouse

[vivapokey]

Shinn is quiet as a mouse

I don't really blame him, if he spoke out on anything he'd be heavily criticised and I never got the vibe from him he was that kind of guy.

In the same spirit as the "Ed follows CT on instagram!" stuff, its perhaps worth noting Chris is still friends on facebook with all of CCP's personal accounts as well as other close Live friends and family. I don't think the break was as brutally bitter as something people think it was but I'm sure still disappointing for Chris and for CCP too.

I hope in time that he'll be freely and publicly accepted as part of the band's history once the dust settles.

[World Dreamer]

I don't really blame him, if he spoke out on anything he'd be heavily criticised and I never got the vibe from him he was that kind of guy.

In the same spirit as the "Ed follows CT on instagram!" stuff, its perhaps worth noting Chris is still friends on facebook with all of CCP's personal accounts as well as other close Live friends and family. I don't think the break was as brutally bitter as something people think it was but I'm sure still disappointing for Chris and for CCP too.

I hope in time that he'll be freely and publicly accepted as part of the band's history once the dust settles.

Here is a quote by Shinn in the track by track:

"Coming into the +Live+ family was interesting for me. There were no substance abuse problems (thank god) but there was lingering resentment and anger that was thick and undeniable. Palpable. Annnnnd, understandable. So here they were, in the MIDDLE of going THROUGH. I saw in those first couple days what was really going on. The music would have to come second to learning how to take the high road. This wasn’t easy convincing. Still isn’t. “The way around is through” is more of a mission statement than a song."

I imagine Shinn is still taking the high road.

[World Dreamer]

Here is a quote by Shinn in the track by track:

"Coming into the +Live+ family was interesting for me. There were no substance abuse problems (thank god) but there was lingering resentment and anger that was thick and undeniable. Palpable. Annnnnd, understandable. So here they were, in the MIDDLE of going THROUGH. I saw in those first couple days what was really going on. The music would have to come second to learning how to take the high road. This wasn’t easy convincing. Still isn’t. “The way around is through” is more of a mission statement than a song."

I imagine Shinn is still taking the high road.

More on this quote...

Almost like Shinn had to convince CCP to also take the high road.

This quote is amazing in the context of what Live/The Thrill has come here and tried to tell us.

[SJN1279]

More on this quote...

Almost like Shinn had to convince CCP to also take the high road.

This quote is amazing in the context of what Live/The Thrill has come here and tried to tell us.

I personally think that Shinn handled the whole Ed thing with open resentment when interviewed during his tenure. He never showed respect to Ed as the original lead singer, and I think it cost him fans.

[alexou]

I personally think that Shinn handled the whole Ed thing with open resentment when interviewed during his tenure. He never showed respect to Ed as the original lead singer, and I think it cost him fans.

Oh no Nick!! You too must be better than that. This comes from people who are happy the board is alive and all excited for what's coming but then you spread shit like that??

Others put that in context so I won't do it again.

And Ed treating CCCP as a karaoke band? How is THAT ok?

I can be convinced that this reunion COULD be good, but not because Shinn is (was) bad. At least spin it as a "We talked together and we forgave each other".