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post Dec 13 2016, 10:30 am
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"Chris who? Oh yeah, the singer from Blind Melon and Unified Theory? Yeah we toured with him at some point in the 90's. Nice guy.

The Turn? What is that? We have a record called The Turn? No, the last Live record was Songs From Black Mountain. Or maybe you're thinking of our live album but that was called Live at the Paradiso.

Siren's Call? Well Chad has a riff that sounds like that but it was never used on a song.

No the band went on hiatus in 2009, Ed did his two solo records and the rest of the guys formed The Gracious Few but that's it. So I don't know what you guys are on about with Chris Shinn and The Turn or whatever it's supposed to be called.

Oh yeah and this is a picture of us now. Yeah yeah we all look like that, it's not an old picture. "

Does anyone else get the feeling that this is how this whole relaunch is? Like they're trying to pretend like nothing since 2012 happened and that everything was always good between them. I feel disrespected as a fan that they would obliterate the last 4 years. Those years happened, they're part of Live's history. They all should man up and stay honest with their us. And I say 'all' not to put the 'blame' on one person because we don't know how it works behind closed doors.

You know, not wanting to play any of The Turn live is one thing. Not even putting the record on the official website, that's just being revisionists.


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post Dec 13 2016, 10:46 am
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Someone on here made a pretty good statement yesterday. This is not the only time we will ever hear from Live again about the reunion. They will probably try to get on Howard Stern knowing Chad Taylor. But there will definitely be more opporunities for a less scripted recounting of what has happened. This was basically just a press release. I wouldn't expect them to dive into a discussion about Chris Shinn and The Turn in a forward-looking press release about their reunion and plans for a World Tour and new music with Ed. That makes no sense. And now that they are a band together with Ed as the lead singer, it makes sense to me that they wouldn't be selling the album with Chris Shinn as lead singer on the website, any more than they would be selling posters of the band with Chris Shinn on them. I am guessing you will still be able to but The Turn on iTunes or Amazon and they they are not ripping it off of the market. When Howard Stern or Pierre Robert of MMR interviews Chad and Ed about what happened over the last 6 years, I am sure that there will be some more planned spin. But I wouldn't expect anything different. I certainly don't expect them to talk positively about Chris Shinn and how great The Turn is now that they are a band with Ed.

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QUOTE(FishOutaWater @ Dec 13 2016, 3:46 pm) *
I certainly don't expect them to talk positively about Chris Shinn and how great The Turn is now that they are a band with Ed. That makes no sense.


Well I mean, they're not bitchy girls in high school.

And I know what you mean about not mentioning Shinn in the press release, but then... up until that point he was the singer in the band. I think it's perfectly fine and appropriate to throw him a customary sentence thanking him and wishing him well, and saying it was an amicable parting regardless of what actually happened.


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Tips   The last 4 years were just a dream!   Dec 13 2016, 10:30 am
Merica   We'll get a better sense of it when they start...   Dec 13 2016, 10:46 am
Unsheathed   It's the first official announcement. More wil...   Dec 13 2016, 11:07 am
vivapokey   It's the first official announcement. More wi...   Dec 13 2016, 11:18 am
FishOutaWater   Funny thing is, there is nothing on the record yet...   Dec 13 2016, 11:10 am
mfitz804   Funny thing is, there is nothing on the record ye...   Dec 13 2016, 12:07 pm
Tips   This was basically just a press release. I would...   Dec 13 2016, 11:13 am
Gruno   Take Tears for Fears. They split in 1990 to reunit...   Dec 14 2016, 9:56 am
Tips   I have to interject and call this out because it ...   Dec 14 2016, 10:17 am
Gruno   Thanks for the clarification. I had a doubt about...   Dec 14 2016, 11:06 am
Tips   :thumbsup: They are friends of mine and I toure...   Dec 14 2016, 11:29 am
Hoodstock   Man, if you guys dated a girl for twenty years, ha...   Dec 13 2016, 11:45 am
Tips   Man, if you guys dated a girl for twenty years, h...   Dec 13 2016, 11:55 am
Voodoo Lady   Man, if you guys dated a girl for twenty years, h...   Dec 13 2016, 12:39 pm
vivapokey   If people here aren't excited for new music f...   Dec 13 2016, 12:48 pm
CTFD40   Full disclosure: I've been a fan since 1994 a...   Dec 13 2016, 11:55 am
Tips   Full disclosure: I've been a fan since 1994 ...   Dec 13 2016, 12:02 pm
Bremang   Shinn is quiet as a mouse   Dec 13 2016, 11:56 am
vivapokey   Shinn is quiet as a mouse I don't really bl...   Dec 13 2016, 12:06 pm
World Dreamer   I don't really blame him, if he spoke out on ...   Dec 13 2016, 12:39 pm
World Dreamer   Here is a quote by Shinn in the track by track: ...   Dec 13 2016, 12:56 pm
SJN1279   More on this quote... Almost like Shinn had to c...   Dec 13 2016, 1:16 pm
Tips   I personally think that Shinn handled the whole E...   Dec 13 2016, 1:32 pm
vivapokey   I personally think that Shinn handled the whole E...   Dec 13 2016, 1:40 pm
Bremang   I personally think that Shinn handled the whole E...   Dec 13 2016, 2:01 pm
alexou   I personally think that Shinn handled the whole E...   Dec 13 2016, 4:24 pm
World Dreamer   I personally think that Shinn handled the whole E...   Dec 13 2016, 4:30 pm
Bremang   Chris Shinn is still in Live edit: Chris is not ...   Dec 13 2016, 12:24 pm
Bremang   Ed Kowalczyk is a Turn era denier   Dec 13 2016, 12:30 pm
Bremang   don't get bitter get better   Dec 13 2016, 12:50 pm
Bremang   http://www.parkhouseschool.org/uploaded_files/1128...   Dec 13 2016, 12:54 pm
CTFD40   http://www.parkhouseschool.org/uploaded_files/112...   Dec 13 2016, 1:32 pm
Tips   THIS. I felt like there was this faction of fans...   Dec 13 2016, 2:12 pm
CTFD40   Either side are and were ridiculous. It's the...   Dec 13 2016, 2:35 pm
Tips   Agreed. I may have opinions about Ed (and the ot...   Dec 13 2016, 2:58 pm
+Ed+   http://www.parkhouseschool.org/uploaded_files/112...   Dec 13 2016, 4:38 pm
jayda   Wonder if they'll let it stay up on Spotify....   Dec 13 2016, 2:57 pm
jayda   Man, if you guys dated a girl for twenty years, h...   Dec 13 2016, 3:04 pm
jayda   I personally think that Shinn handled the whole E...   Dec 13 2016, 3:09 pm
SJN1279   nothing has changed with you has it? Still full ...   Dec 13 2016, 3:34 pm
World Dreamer   Shinn Quotes: -The records that came after Dista...   Dec 13 2016, 3:41 pm
World Dreamer   Shinn Quotes: -I have a bit of a higher range th...   Dec 13 2016, 3:51 pm
Tips   Shinn Quotes: -The records that came after Dista...   Dec 13 2016, 3:54 pm
World Dreamer   Shinn Quotes: -but I’d never dare ask for a lea...   Dec 13 2016, 3:55 pm
World Dreamer   Tips, you beat me to it! LOL   Dec 13 2016, 3:56 pm
Tips   Tips, you beat me to it! LOL Ha ha! I h...   Dec 13 2016, 4:01 pm
Soxwsc   IMHO, when you put it in context, it makes CS look...   Dec 13 2016, 4:44 pm
World Dreamer   IMHO, when you put it in context, it makes CS loo...   Dec 13 2016, 6:43 pm
SJN1279   EDIT: In short, Shinn handled interviews pretty...   Dec 13 2016, 7:03 pm
World Dreamer   If he was humble and respectful, he would have ha...   Dec 13 2016, 7:13 pm
SJN1279   Did you see him up close at a show? No, but I s...   Dec 14 2016, 11:22 am
vivapokey   No, but I saw him botch I Alone on their last TV ...   Dec 14 2016, 11:29 am
World Dreamer   No, but I saw him botch I Alone on their last TV ...   Dec 14 2016, 11:29 am
Hoodstock   "He sucks in concert." "Have you ...   Dec 14 2016, 2:15 pm
Tips   No, but I saw him botch I Alone on their last TV ...   Dec 14 2016, 11:35 am
World Dreamer   If he was humble and respectful, he would have ha...   Dec 13 2016, 7:17 pm
World Dreamer   If he was humble and respectful, he would have ha...   Dec 13 2016, 7:19 pm
alexou   If he was humble and respectful, he would have ha...   Dec 13 2016, 7:27 pm
vivapokey   Chris was better on stage than Ed has been since 9...   Dec 13 2016, 10:32 pm
World Dreamer   What show did you go to? Still waiting. If you...   Dec 14 2016, 11:03 am
jayda   Now please, can we just stop with the Ed vs Chri...   Dec 14 2016, 2:23 pm
Tips   Come on Tips, that's half the fun of this mes...   Dec 14 2016, 3:06 pm
jayda   No, but I saw him botch I Alone on their last TV ...   Dec 14 2016, 2:33 pm
Heather   Would rather listen to a couple of lines botched ...   Dec 14 2016, 2:53 pm
World Dreamer   I've seen CS with Live, live. I honestly thou...   Dec 14 2016, 3:16 pm
World Dreamer   I know it's one of your playing cards to go ...   Dec 14 2016, 3:19 pm
World Dreamer   SJN sounds like my kids. This happens every time w...   Dec 14 2016, 3:15 pm
mfitz804   Chris was never awful. Now when The Gracious Few ...   Dec 14 2016, 3:23 pm
La Mer   Gotta respect Chris but to be honest I never felt ...   Dec 14 2016, 7:05 pm
mfitz804   I agree. I liked The Turn, but it's not Live t...   Dec 14 2016, 7:30 pm
Voodoo Lady   I agree. I liked The Turn, but it's not Live ...   Dec 14 2016, 8:02 pm
TheBeacon   Should've just had The Turn under the TGF name...   Dec 14 2016, 8:07 pm
Bremang   Should've just had The Turn under the TGF nam...   Dec 14 2016, 8:23 pm
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