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post Nov 18 2016, 4:06 pm
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Most people here would agree that Ed's voice has changed over for the years. I agree, and unfortunately I think it changed for the worst (but not as bad as most people would say).

I don't speak music lingo, nor was I a fan of the band until 2008, so all I have to go off of are concert recordings, but to those who have seen the change and know a thing or two about vocals, what exactly happened? Why did it happen? When did it start to change, in what ways, and how has it continued to change?

Please be as unbiased as you can be and keep your theories scientific. Comments like "Because Ed's ego got in the way" doesn't really answer the how or even the what for that matter.

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post Nov 18 2016, 4:34 pm
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A very non-expert point of view:

I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I don't really think Ed's voice was inherently remarkable at any point. It was always how he used it. His patterns of intonation were unlike anything I've ever really experienced, and the marriage of those patterns with some amazing lyrics and extremely well-crafted music from the guys surrounding him ultimately are what made Live such a uniquely powerful experience for me.

Studio recording has been VERY kind to Ed. After listening to countless live performances and listening to him live, it is clear to me that Ed was given MANY takes in the studio, and a lot of it was cleaned up with editing tools. Compare his attempted falsetto on Turn My Head on Churchbox with the final version on Secret Semadhi, as an example.

I really don't feel like his voice changed all that much, just how he used it. He started using falsetto in the studio circa SS and the finished product sounded good, so they ran with that. It sounded good on TDTH, so they ran with that. Then V came out, and then BOP, and then SFBM....


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post Nov 18 2016, 9:00 pm
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Studio recording has been VERY kind to Ed. After listening to countless live performances and listening to him live, it is clear to me that Ed was given MANY takes in the studio, and a lot of it was cleaned up with editing tools.

I totally disagree. I think Live sounds way better in concert. I'd say the recording studio has actually ruined some of their songs.

I prefer the live performances over their albums.


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QUOTE(Hoodstock @ Nov 18 2016, 9:00 pm) *

I totally disagree. I think Live sounds way better in concert. I'd say the recording studio has actually ruined some of their songs.

I prefer the live performances over their albums.


I prefer the live performances over the albums much of the time as well. I just never thought Ed sounded like a vocal powerhouse during those concerts. For me, Ed's persona on stage was not defined by the quality of his voice, but rather how he presented it.


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LiveForNow   When, How, and Why did Ed's Voice Change?   Nov 18 2016, 4:06 pm
Fool_By_The_River   Most people here would agree that Ed's voiced...   Nov 18 2016, 4:11 pm
alexou   Most people here would agree that Ed's voice ...   Nov 18 2016, 4:12 pm
LiveForNow   Missing the raw edge of his voice somewhere at th...   Nov 18 2016, 4:16 pm
vivapokey   I think it's gone through stages, even in the ...   Nov 18 2016, 5:06 pm
World Dreamer   Most people here would agree that Ed's voice ...   Nov 18 2016, 5:29 pm
Voodoo Lady   I'm not a vocal coach, but it is a fact that y...   Nov 18 2016, 5:30 pm
World Dreamer   It could be wrong, but I once read that Ed had s...   Nov 18 2016, 5:34 pm
FishOutaWater   I think Ed started trying to fine tune his craft a...   Nov 18 2016, 5:59 pm
Voodoo Lady   You did read that. In my excellent post just abov...   Nov 18 2016, 6:02 pm
World Dreamer   I was referring to another time I read that here,...   Nov 18 2016, 6:15 pm
Voodoo Lady   Probably also a post by me. :shrug:   Nov 18 2016, 6:27 pm
vivapokey   Much also must come down to when Ed sings with his...   Nov 18 2016, 6:10 pm
Voodoo Lady   Much also must come down to when Ed sings with hi...   Nov 18 2016, 6:21 pm
World Dreamer   Yea, keep trying to be an ass. :sarcasm: Ed ve...   Nov 18 2016, 7:15 pm
vivapokey   Sorry it was just honestly one of the dumbest thin...   Nov 18 2016, 6:27 pm
World Dreamer   For the record, it was so lame when Ed went to wea...   Nov 18 2016, 7:19 pm
Merica   You did read that. In my excellent post just abov...   Nov 19 2016, 3:32 am
World Dreamer   Merica is the best poster I have ever seen besides...   Nov 20 2016, 12:13 am


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