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post Nov 18 2016, 4:06 pm
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Most people here would agree that Ed's voice has changed over for the years. I agree, and unfortunately I think it changed for the worst (but not as bad as most people would say).

I don't speak music lingo, nor was I a fan of the band until 2008, so all I have to go off of are concert recordings, but to those who have seen the change and know a thing or two about vocals, what exactly happened? Why did it happen? When did it start to change, in what ways, and how has it continued to change?

Please be as unbiased as you can be and keep your theories scientific. Comments like "Because Ed's ego got in the way" doesn't really answer the how or even the what for that matter.

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Voodoo Lady
post Nov 18 2016, 5:30 pm
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I'm not a vocal coach, but it is a fact that your voice box/cord tissues are a muscle. Muscle tissue changes as you age; you lose muscle mass. And then on top of that, singers wear out and damage their vocal chords faster than just aging because of the repetitive use/strain.

It could be wrong, but I once read that Ed had surgery back in the day (maybe between SS and TDTH?) for a vocal chord nodule? Anyway, I think Ed's voice has held up great over the years. And I agree with the previous comments that he has sounded different on different albums. That was both vocal maturity and style choices. We all know that Ed's voice is unique and identifiable, which makes him stand apart from the rest.

Many singers have destroyed their voices over the years. I like to use Jeff Keith from Tesla as an example. He sounds like Cartman from South Park nowadays. But I don't care... I'm going to see Tesla March 3 and I know I'll have a great time. Unlike some, I don't get my panties all in a bunch if a singer doesn't sound exactly like he did in his prime or he doesn't sound like he does on the album live. (Of course they aren't going to, right?)

Interestingly, Ian Astbury's shot voice sounds better to me now than it did in the 80's. It worked to his advantage, giving him a deeper, mature sound & I like it. --But many Cult fans complain. Same you know what, different day.


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post Nov 18 2016, 5:34 pm
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QUOTE(Voodoo Lady @ Nov 18 2016, 6:30 pm) *


It could be wrong, but I once read that Ed had surgery back in the day


You did read that. In my excellent post just above yours.


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post Nov 18 2016, 5:59 pm
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I think Ed started trying to fine tune his craft and use his voice as a good singer, instead of a rough and tumble alternative rock singer with angst. I think I really heard it first on TDTH. But I think that the change was intentional, not that his voice changed or that he couldn't so it anymore. The evolution of Ed's voice was (in my opinion) when Ed started trying to sound good, like a good singer. He started using more vibrato and trying to deliver a prettier sound on ballads. He was singing Imagine and Overcome and Turn My Head and Dance With You and stuff like that, and he started varying the album versions fo the hits to throw in some vocal runs. But I think that Ed could still deliver a great vocal performance on Lakini's Juice and White Discussion right up until the end of their run. I saw some great shows at Hershey and Atlantic City right near the end. I didn't walk away from those shows thinking there was anything wrong with Ed's vocals. I loved his early acoustic solo performances. I think Ed's voice still has plenty in the tank and can sound great.


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LiveForNow   When, How, and Why did Ed's Voice Change?   Nov 18 2016, 4:06 pm
Fool_By_The_River   Most people here would agree that Ed's voiced...   Nov 18 2016, 4:11 pm
alexou   Most people here would agree that Ed's voice ...   Nov 18 2016, 4:12 pm
LiveForNow   Missing the raw edge of his voice somewhere at th...   Nov 18 2016, 4:16 pm
Unsheathed   A very non-expert point of view: I'm sure I...   Nov 18 2016, 4:34 pm
Hoodstock   Studio recording has been VERY kind to Ed. Afte...   Nov 18 2016, 9:00 pm
Unsheathed   I totally disagree. I think Live sounds way bette...   Nov 18 2016, 10:59 pm
vivapokey   I think it's gone through stages, even in the ...   Nov 18 2016, 5:06 pm
World Dreamer   Most people here would agree that Ed's voice ...   Nov 18 2016, 5:29 pm
Voodoo Lady   You did read that. In my excellent post just abov...   Nov 18 2016, 6:02 pm
World Dreamer   I was referring to another time I read that here,...   Nov 18 2016, 6:15 pm
Voodoo Lady   Probably also a post by me. :shrug:   Nov 18 2016, 6:27 pm
vivapokey   Much also must come down to when Ed sings with his...   Nov 18 2016, 6:10 pm
Voodoo Lady   Much also must come down to when Ed sings with hi...   Nov 18 2016, 6:21 pm
World Dreamer   Yea, keep trying to be an ass. :sarcasm: Ed ve...   Nov 18 2016, 7:15 pm
vivapokey   Sorry it was just honestly one of the dumbest thin...   Nov 18 2016, 6:27 pm
World Dreamer   For the record, it was so lame when Ed went to wea...   Nov 18 2016, 7:19 pm
Merica   You did read that. In my excellent post just abov...   Nov 19 2016, 3:32 am
World Dreamer   Merica is the best poster I have ever seen besides...   Nov 20 2016, 12:13 am


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