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post Nov 18 2016, 4:06 pm
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Most people here would agree that Ed's voice has changed over for the years. I agree, and unfortunately I think it changed for the worst (but not as bad as most people would say).

I don't speak music lingo, nor was I a fan of the band until 2008, so all I have to go off of are concert recordings, but to those who have seen the change and know a thing or two about vocals, what exactly happened? Why did it happen? When did it start to change, in what ways, and how has it continued to change?

Please be as unbiased as you can be and keep your theories scientific. Comments like "Because Ed's ego got in the way" doesn't really answer the how or even the what for that matter.

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post Nov 18 2016, 5:29 pm
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QUOTE(LiveForNow @ Nov 18 2016, 5:06 pm) *

Most people here would agree that Ed's voice has changed over for the years. I agree, and unfortunately I think it changed for the worst (but not as bad as most people would say).

I don't speak music lingo, nor was I a fan of the band until 2008, so all I have to go off of are concert recordings, but to those who have seen the change and know a thing or two about vocals, what exactly happened? Why did it happen? When did it start to change, in what ways, and how has it continued to change?

Please be as unbiased as you can be and keep your theories scientific. Comments like "Because Ed's ego got in the way" doesn't really answer the how or even the what for that matter.


A lot goes into an answer to this question.

You mentioned you became a fan in 2008. I wish you could have seen Ed early on. Differing opinions aside, 90's Live is why everyone is still following this band. They were that good. They were so good that after 20 years of wetting the bed they still have fans. Not many, but here we are.

Back in the day Live toured a lot and Ed gave everything he had. He was intense and passionate (which is why I feel like Shinn was great - he had amazing passion at shows) and he sang his heart out. It takes a toll. Think of a Chris Cornell. He can't do near what he used to. Still sounds good but has been almost forced into a more acoustic, mellow sound. Our good friend Kevin Martin is the same way. When he sings mellow and slow his voice is pure and sounds like it always has (which Ed does now if he does acoustic shows) but when he gets loose and loud it is much different than 15 years ago.

If you compare Eddie Vedder now to how he sounded during Ten it is a huge difference.

It comes with the territory of singing "abrasive" songs.

Also, I know at one point Ed did have vocal surgery. I do not know the specifics but one has to assume it changed things.

Hell, I spoke in another thread about Shinn bringing back the grit and angst of early Live but if he had to do that for 4 albums and the tours that go with it I bet his voice would suffer as well.

I mean Ed has been singing since he was 14? 15? Even Michael Jordan got slow towards the end of his career.

If I didn't like hearing myself type then I would have given you the short answer...Father Time.


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LiveForNow   When, How, and Why did Ed's Voice Change?   Nov 18 2016, 4:06 pm
Fool_By_The_River   Most people here would agree that Ed's voiced...   Nov 18 2016, 4:11 pm
alexou   Most people here would agree that Ed's voice ...   Nov 18 2016, 4:12 pm
LiveForNow   Missing the raw edge of his voice somewhere at th...   Nov 18 2016, 4:16 pm
Unsheathed   A very non-expert point of view: I'm sure I...   Nov 18 2016, 4:34 pm
Hoodstock   Studio recording has been VERY kind to Ed. Afte...   Nov 18 2016, 9:00 pm
Unsheathed   I totally disagree. I think Live sounds way bette...   Nov 18 2016, 10:59 pm
vivapokey   I think it's gone through stages, even in the ...   Nov 18 2016, 5:06 pm
Voodoo Lady   I'm not a vocal coach, but it is a fact that y...   Nov 18 2016, 5:30 pm
World Dreamer   It could be wrong, but I once read that Ed had s...   Nov 18 2016, 5:34 pm
FishOutaWater   I think Ed started trying to fine tune his craft a...   Nov 18 2016, 5:59 pm
Voodoo Lady   You did read that. In my excellent post just abov...   Nov 18 2016, 6:02 pm
World Dreamer   I was referring to another time I read that here,...   Nov 18 2016, 6:15 pm
Voodoo Lady   Probably also a post by me. :shrug:   Nov 18 2016, 6:27 pm
vivapokey   Much also must come down to when Ed sings with his...   Nov 18 2016, 6:10 pm
Voodoo Lady   Much also must come down to when Ed sings with hi...   Nov 18 2016, 6:21 pm
World Dreamer   Yea, keep trying to be an ass. :sarcasm: Ed ve...   Nov 18 2016, 7:15 pm
vivapokey   Sorry it was just honestly one of the dumbest thin...   Nov 18 2016, 6:27 pm
World Dreamer   For the record, it was so lame when Ed went to wea...   Nov 18 2016, 7:19 pm
Merica   You did read that. In my excellent post just abov...   Nov 19 2016, 3:32 am
World Dreamer   Merica is the best poster I have ever seen besides...   Nov 20 2016, 12:13 am


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