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Now that the Chris Shinn chapter of Live has closed, what are your takeaways?


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Shinn definitely performed his own songs better than Ed's songs. 6310 was personal to him so yeah, Shinn was passionate about it. But he couldn't remember I alone lyrics to save his life. That should automatically disqualify someone from being Live's frontman. Shinn had his strengths an weaknesses. His voice shreds in concert but he lacks charisma on stage or in the interviews. I'm glad he stepped in, but I think CCP are just a bit above his level of talent. Not debatable. it is fact. haha

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QUOTE(Bremang @ Nov 18 2016, 2:02 am) *

Shinn definitely performed his own songs better than Ed's songs. 6310 was personal to him so yeah, Shinn was passionate about it. But he couldn't remember I alone lyrics to save his life. That should automatically disqualify someone from being Live's frontman. Shinn had his strengths an weaknesses. His voice shreds in concert but he lacks charisma on stage or in the interviews. I'm glad he stepped in, but I think CCP are just a bit above his level of talent. Not debatable. it is fact. haha


^Yes, yes, YES, yes, YES!
I tried to give Chris a chance. I bought The Turn and I listened to it. It was average. Not great, not horrible... just average. I think overall, it did rock harder than TDTH. TDTH has a bunch of songs on it that I skip over because they're not my style. But the good songs on it are damn good. And yea, that's my opinion. Those who love The Turn, I'm happy for you. I don't know about Chris' solo stuff or Unified Theory, maybe it is indeed good. But as said above, he lacked stage presence for Live and messing up I Alone lyrics ("chained to pain" hurt my soul facepalm.gif ) is inexcusable. That just turns me off from wanting to check out his other stuff. I'm sure he's a good guy, as many of you here have said. And I'll reiterate that I appreciate the effort he gave to LIVE and for what he did for CCP.

Also an emphatic YES to the LIVE fan who mentioned Bob Dylan having put out stuff considered not so good and then BAM, a work of excellence arrives. I expect the same for LIVE. Countless artists do this. I mean, hello, it's their job and they have to eat. How many masterpieces can one put out in a row? As for Ed's style the latter years of LIVE and his solo work, it's just not my thing. It sounds terrible to me, but who's to say there's not Christian contemporary (?) music fans who think it's absolutely golden? And maybe it is when it comes to that genre of music. Artists explore other genres they love... I hear Steven Tyler is doing country lately. Geez, I even love the old country my grandma listened to--Dolly Parton, Conway Twitty, etc. I loved to watch Hee Haw with that woman. When a recent infomercial came on with a Hee Haw box set, oh my God, I'm not ashamed to say I was singing every word of those corny songs. It doesn't mean it's bad entertainment. CCP allowed Ed to place his other music love into the catalog of LIVE. It shouldn't have ever happened. But I don't see CCP allowing that ever again. I'm excited for what's to come. Even if they don't do any new material. I don't care if Ed doesn't sound like he did vocally on SS. I'm elated.


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LiveForNow   Chris Shinn in Retrospect   Nov 16 2016, 11:22 pm
Voodoo Lady   I am appreciative that he made CCP happy for a whi...   Nov 16 2016, 11:37 pm
figure8   Would be good for Live to say something official a...   Nov 17 2016, 6:51 am
gerrycan70   http://i.imgur.com/42SzC6c.png Link to full size i...   Nov 17 2016, 9:04 am
vivapokey   Chris is the second best singer Live has had: 1. ...   Nov 17 2016, 9:06 am
Merica   Chris is the second best singer Live has had: 1....   Nov 17 2016, 10:40 am
vivapokey   You must spread some reputation around before giv...   Nov 17 2016, 11:00 am
Unsheathed   I like the dude. I respect him for carrying the to...   Nov 17 2016, 1:27 pm
throwing_cheetahs   .   Nov 17 2016, 5:08 pm
figure8   Chris is the second best singer Live has had: 1....   Nov 17 2016, 9:28 am
mfitz804   He had funny hair. And we has a guy that was bald ...   Nov 17 2016, 12:52 pm
baggieneil   Vivapokey exactly how i felt.spot on I met Chris a...   Nov 17 2016, 1:44 pm
alexou   The Turn is still a solid rock album. Thanks Chris...   Nov 17 2016, 2:36 pm
meltdown5   I love all these takeaways about Chris's time ...   Nov 17 2016, 3:31 pm
mfitz804   I love all these takeaways about Chris's time...   Nov 17 2016, 3:59 pm
meltdown5   I went to see an Ed show and couldn't really ...   Nov 17 2016, 6:08 pm
mfitz804   No - I agree. That's a reason I didn't go...   Nov 17 2016, 6:53 pm
vivapokey   but you gotta move forward and this is exactly wh...   Nov 18 2016, 4:23 am
meltdown5   Does it look bright? Or does it look bleak? I say...   Nov 18 2016, 2:43 pm
World Dreamer   Shinn was put in a tough spot. People who never he...   Nov 18 2016, 12:53 am
Fool_By_The_River   Siren's Call is a top 5 Live song. Sorry, [b]n...   Nov 18 2016, 3:57 am
World Dreamer   It is very debatable, musical taste is based on p...   Nov 18 2016, 9:02 am
World Dreamer   Take note of who is negative towards Shinn or d...   Nov 18 2016, 3:40 pm
figure8   Does it look bright? Or does it look bleak? I say...   Nov 18 2016, 4:52 am
vivapokey   You know what Amigo, it is what it is. Think posi...   Nov 18 2016, 7:12 am
figure8   Like I've said, what is there to be positive ...   Nov 18 2016, 7:48 am
vivapokey   Ed's up was for 7 years, his down was for 16 y...   Nov 18 2016, 7:54 am
throwing_cheetahs   I'd love a follow up to Everything is Energy I...   Nov 18 2016, 8:02 am
vivapokey   I've said before, i like the EIE and Unified ...   Nov 18 2016, 8:08 am
throwing_cheetahs   Like Siren's Call, By Design, 6310, He could ...   Nov 18 2016, 8:13 am
vivapokey   By Design is good, best song off The Turn. Agre...   Nov 18 2016, 8:19 am
vivapokey   Man I am going to miss this https://youtu.be/U5G0...   Nov 18 2016, 8:28 am
World Dreamer   Guys...you don't seem to understand/remember. ...   Nov 18 2016, 9:01 am
throwing_cheetahs   I wonder if Shinn wanted out of Live to go do his ...   Nov 18 2016, 9:06 am
vivapokey   I wonder if Shinn wanted out of Live to go do his...   Nov 18 2016, 9:11 am
mfitz804   I was once in a band with a singer who only wanted...   Nov 18 2016, 10:47 am
World Dreamer   I was once in a band with a singer who only wante...   Nov 18 2016, 11:47 am
Merica   I saw more tweets about racecars than I did music....   Nov 18 2016, 12:53 pm
Bremang   Ed messed up Live songs all the time. nope ...   Nov 18 2016, 1:59 pm
vivapokey   Yes, Shinn could have put Throwing Copper on his ...   Nov 18 2016, 2:00 pm
vivapokey   I also think Chris intentionally changed some lyri...   Nov 18 2016, 11:55 am
mfitz804   I also think Chris intentionally changed some lyr...   Nov 18 2016, 1:15 pm
vivapokey   If that made it more personal for him, he's g...   Nov 18 2016, 1:58 pm
Bremang   If that made it more personal for him, he's...   Nov 18 2016, 2:14 pm
mfitz804   Double post.   Nov 18 2016, 1:20 pm
Bremang   I also think Chris intentionally changed some lyr...   Nov 18 2016, 2:11 pm
vivapokey   Yeah, you might be right. Chris may have intentio...   Nov 18 2016, 2:39 pm
Tips   Chris Shinn was a great singer and I love most of ...   Nov 18 2016, 12:42 pm
Fool_By_The_River   Chris Shinn to me was like the "rebound...   Nov 18 2016, 3:52 pm
World Dreamer   Chris Shinn to me was like the "rebound...   Nov 18 2016, 5:09 pm
vivapokey   Here is a better *analogy. A great basketball pla...   Nov 18 2016, 6:05 pm
World Dreamer   I'm positive I used this exact analogy on WD....   Nov 18 2016, 6:16 pm
throwing_cheetahs   i have a question for all of the WD.com crew that ...   Nov 19 2016, 8:37 pm
World Dreamer   i have a question for all of the WD.com crew that...   Nov 20 2016, 12:11 am
throwing_cheetahs   The truth is WD.com was an anti-Ed board, i mean, ...   Nov 20 2016, 12:57 am
World Dreamer   The truth is WD.com was an anti-Ed board, i mean,...   Nov 20 2016, 1:22 am
Merica   Yeah, people think WD was all just talking shit ab...   Nov 20 2016, 3:31 am
vivapokey   WD.come wasn't anti-Ed. Whilst most of its mos...   Nov 20 2016, 7:00 am
Hoodstock   WD.come wasn't anti-Ed. Lol. Private messag...   Nov 21 2016, 9:06 pm
QuietRiverRage1   I think Shinn was the right singer for a time wher...   Nov 21 2016, 10:33 am
Bremang   ITT denial   Nov 21 2016, 11:11 pm
Badman   In the spirit of Thanksgiving, I am appreciative o...   Nov 22 2016, 12:23 am
Bremang   aside from TWAIT I can't be bothered with The ...   Nov 22 2016, 2:02 am
odoyle   the turn was a necessary time in the LIVE timeline...   Nov 22 2016, 10:04 am
World Dreamer   Bump.   Dec 12 2016, 11:13 am
Merica   Chris helped drop The Turn, a fucking great album ...   Dec 12 2016, 11:17 am
LiveForNow   So I wanted to wait until the reunion was in full ...   Jul 2 2019, 12:07 pm
SecretInsomnia   So I wanted to wait until the reunion was in full...   Jul 2 2019, 12:58 pm
LiveForNow   Great post. Very well and honest writing right th...   Jul 2 2019, 1:30 pm
Merica   I think CCP made better music with TGF and CCCP th...   Jul 4 2019, 6:22 am
LiveForNow   I'll also add that I met Chris after a Summerl...   Jul 2 2019, 1:40 pm
LanceManion   I was thinking about The Turn earlier today. I st...   Jul 2 2019, 8:19 pm
+Ed+   This is a nice one.   Jul 2 2019, 11:26 pm


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