What to expect from +Live+..., now that Ed is back Options

[throwing_cheetahs]

I think the first thing might be SS related, but i'm up for anything as i'm sure most fans are. Have at it, what do you think!?

TC

This post has been edited by throwing_cheetahs: Oct 26 2016, 1:57 am

[Merica]

I'm all for a reunited Live leading to the release of some old gems. Whether for anniversaries or just some ad-hoc dropping of goodies - that's all fine by me. Bring it on.

But moving forward, I can't imagine they won't put out some new music. There'll be a new album, imo. Some new material that they can then choose not to play in favour of the TC stalwarts...

As for what to expect from any new album, I think unless they're completely spineless idiots, it's reasonable to assume that CCP will be unleashed musically. And across TGF and The Turn, they have emphatically proven that they can bring the goods. They can still rock the fuck out. So straight away, it should be a massive step up from the stale BOP and wimpy SFBM.

The real question is, can Ed still produce something worthy of the Live name? He is clear as day the weak link of the group in terms of making new stuff that's actually any good. His solo output is generic Christian pop rock which is simply not good enough. Lyrically, he's been stuck in a rut for yeeeeaaaars, and at times throughout TFATM and Alive it's just downright embarrassing. See Parasite for a shining example. Even sidestepping the fact that it's possibly probably a song aimed at CCP, it's just horrendously basic and childlike. The only way he could explain it is if he came out and said he was just having a laugh with his kids and he let them write it. Seriously.

All this said, under some very specific conditions they could possibly make good stuff together. Let's not worry about it hitting the heights of the big four. What it would have to do is stand at least on par with The Turn. Which is a massive ask considering Ed's record since 1999.

But if CCP can be in charge and Ed can do as he's fucking told, it might work. He needs to try hard, really hard, to be a bit more like the old Ed. And maybe being back in amongst the guys, with a fire right up their arses, it could happen. Writing to CCP's music the vast majority of the time would be a good start. And CCP need veto power. Because Ed's proven he can't be trusted, basically. BOP, SFBM, Alive, SFBM, TFATM, SFBM, he's shown nothing for a long time that's worthy of Live and he's had the absolute run of the gaff. Meanwhile, CCP dropped The Turn. And soz (but not really), I know some of you will disagree, but The Turn is a Live album. And a fucking good one. The transcendent feel, depth, mystique, spirit and essence of Live is there for the first time since TDTH.

Tell ya where they should start. CT once said in an interview that they went back and listened to the old albums back to back to rediscover who they were as Live (before going on to release The Turn, of best album since TDTH fame). They should strap Ed down in a chair and do that. Maybe ten times over. They need to brainwash the bastard. See, Ed. You were amazing. Remember this? All this good stuff? Let's have a go at this kind of thing. Where we're not shit. Here's some new music we've written. Have a look, have a tinker, and maybe think about some words that don't involve how much you love Jesus.

tl;dr - Ed's the weak link and needs to step up if any new music has a chance of being good.

PS: If they're dropping gems, how about New City? Don't think I've ever asked for that before.

This post has been edited by Merica: Nov 18 2016, 7:55 am