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Who would you rather have as the present singer for +Live+ (2016-?)
Well, what's your choice?
Ed Kowalczyk [ 87 ] ** [84.47%]
Chris Shinn [ 15 ] ** [14.56%]
Neither, would rather a new TGF album [ 1 ] ** [0.97%]
Other (Explain) [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
+Live+ is finished, they just buried the hatchet with Ed for closure [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
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post Oct 28 2016, 3:38 pm
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I chose Ed of course.


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QUOTE(Costakoui @ Nov 2 2016, 1:39 pm) *

His voice changed but i think he can write songs like the ones he did in the 1990s. If you are right then why are still here supporting CCP and Chris? If Ed cannot write like the 1990s then why CCP can? I think you are confusing Ed-solo with Live. Live as a band, not Ed leading the band, can write heavy/ raw rock songs like Siren's Call and Don't Run to Wait. These songs are reminiscent of early Live.


Ed definitely does not write songs like he did on Mental Jewelry, Throwing Copper or Secret Samadhi. The lyrical content on those was usually abstract and covered a lot of socio-political topics. Ed's writing style has been very much on the nose with recent material, and you can tell that there is a lot less conflict in his life. Comfort makes for boring art.

CCP never really contributed to the lyric content, but when they collaborated with Chris, they were allowed to explore what they wanted in a way that early-Live operated. From TDTH on, it was pretty clear that Ed was driving the creative direction. And it was a path that I had little interest in.

I do not believe that with Ed back in the mix they would be able to capture that same collaborative effort that they enjoyed during the mid-1990s. And even if they could, I don't think that Ed could contribute lyrical or vocal content in a way that I would enjoy.

I could care less if Ed can pull of a performance of Iris that is similar to the way he sang it 20 years ago (he can't...). I care about what new music would sound like with him back.


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throwing_cheetahs   Who is your preferred singer for +Live+?   Oct 28 2016, 3:38 pm
vivapokey   Chris, hands down. But I realise on this board tha...   Oct 29 2016, 12:14 am
Fool_By_The_River   Although the return to TGF would be great. Which I...   Oct 29 2016, 2:42 am
vivapokey   I hope not, i would like this all to be a permane...   Oct 29 2016, 4:33 am
Tips   There should be one other option: "Ed if he...   Oct 29 2016, 11:53 am
TonyD   Live isn't Live without Ed. I don't get h...   Oct 29 2016, 12:53 pm
Voodoo Lady   Live isn't Live without Ed. I don't get ...   Oct 29 2016, 1:00 pm
vivapokey   It's mind-boggling to me also. The only way I...   Oct 29 2016, 9:52 pm
Voodoo Lady   On the other hand, he was far better than Ed has ...   Oct 29 2016, 10:27 pm
vivapokey   No, no he wasn't. I'm sure I could go i...   Oct 30 2016, 3:46 am
SJN1279   . But it far from made Chris bad, just different....   Oct 30 2016, 8:38 am
Voodoo Lady   No you couldn't, and yes he was :) Yeah he w...   Oct 30 2016, 10:53 am
vivapokey   First off, I think you would argue with a fence ...   Oct 30 2016, 1:06 pm
Bremang   On the other hand, he was far better than Ed has ...   Oct 29 2016, 11:13 pm
vivapokey   Very few would put the turn over tdth TDTH mayb...   Oct 30 2016, 3:48 am
mfitz804   TDTH maybe, but in terms of the era in general - ...   Oct 30 2016, 9:31 am
ThrowgnCpr   Very few would put the turn over tdth I would   Oct 30 2016, 7:04 am
Voodoo Lady   Very few would put the turn over tdth When I fi...   Oct 30 2016, 11:49 am
Voodoo Lady   I'd like to add something I just thought about...   Oct 29 2016, 1:32 pm
MightyHet   What a stupid poll. This isn't 2012 anymore.   Oct 29 2016, 2:15 pm
TonyD   What a stupid poll. This isn't 2012 anymore. ...   Oct 29 2016, 2:41 pm
throwing_cheetahs   What a stupid poll. This isn't 2012 anymore. ...   Oct 29 2016, 6:22 pm
mfitz804   How so, "The Turn" was not even out in ...   Oct 29 2016, 7:26 pm
throwing_cheetahs   And, the most current news (and ONLY current news...   Oct 29 2016, 7:30 pm
alexou   I think Ed's voice/attitude started to change ...   Oct 30 2016, 8:26 am
SJN1279   I think Ed's voice/attitude started to change...   Oct 30 2016, 8:31 am
Voodoo Lady   Once again vivapokey, you have over-analyzed. I ha...   Oct 30 2016, 1:32 pm
vivapokey   Once again vivapokey, you have over-analyzed. I h...   Oct 30 2016, 1:36 pm
throwing_cheetahs   Ed's voice was good on "V", great on...   Oct 30 2016, 1:47 pm
vivapokey   Ed's voice was good on "V", great o...   Oct 30 2016, 1:52 pm
throwing_cheetahs   I know you are a huge fan of Shinn Pokester, but i...   Oct 30 2016, 2:04 pm
vivapokey   I know you are a huge fan of Shinn Pokester, but ...   Oct 30 2016, 2:11 pm
throwing_cheetahs   So? Doesn't affect me. Plenty of people can s...   Oct 30 2016, 2:15 pm
throwing_cheetahs   Chris has 25% of the vote, which isn't 90% to...   Oct 30 2016, 4:17 pm
vivapokey   I said ALL +Live+ FANS, not just the very few who...   Oct 30 2016, 11:13 pm
throwing_cheetahs   And then where do you draw the line on "fans...   Oct 31 2016, 12:31 am
vivapokey   *sorry about the almost Pokey-Sized post y'al...   Oct 31 2016, 4:39 am
odoyle   There is no set criteria to being a fan. A fan d...   Oct 31 2016, 8:35 am
throwing_cheetahs   Why are you coming down on this pokey poster becau...   Oct 31 2016, 3:27 pm
Wambangalang   Because it's boring and kinda patronizing and...   Oct 31 2016, 10:31 pm
throwing_cheetahs   you put the guy on ignore not because you have an...   Oct 31 2016, 10:41 pm
Wambangalang   I don't hate him, he has a right to post and ...   Nov 1 2016, 8:13 am
Wambangalang   There is no set criteria to being a fan. A fan d...   Oct 31 2016, 8:41 am
throwing_cheetahs   A fan, or fanatic, sometimes also called aficionad...   Oct 31 2016, 3:13 pm
Wambangalang   I kinda form my own definition on things by using...   Oct 31 2016, 10:28 pm
throwing_cheetahs   yeh that's what I said, lol When i said real...   Oct 31 2016, 10:45 pm
Hoodstock   Are people who only know the songs on Awake fans,...   Oct 31 2016, 4:48 am
mfitz804   True fans know Awake is a "greatest hits...   Oct 31 2016, 8:36 am
vivapokey   Sadly the truth   Oct 30 2016, 2:30 pm
alexou   Shinn was capable of gaining fans when he was on. ...   Oct 30 2016, 4:50 pm
Bremang   Live fans sure do have varying opinions of the mus...   Oct 30 2016, 5:21 pm
Hoodstock   Alive was better than The Turn.   Oct 30 2016, 6:47 pm
Fool_By_The_River   Alive was better than The Turn. Alive is a solid...   Oct 30 2016, 7:34 pm
mfitz804   Alive was better than The Turn. I agree with th...   Oct 30 2016, 8:11 pm
vivapokey   Alive was better than The Turn. Ok no need to t...   Oct 30 2016, 11:05 pm
Shared Belief   But no really this is why there is always going ...   Oct 31 2016, 9:48 am
vivapokey   i think the unrest is also due to the long standi...   Oct 31 2016, 10:35 am
Bremang   aw man, I can barely listen to alive. The Turn was...   Oct 30 2016, 8:40 pm
SJN1279   The Garden EP I enjoy a lot.   Oct 30 2016, 8:54 pm
Fool_By_The_River   The Garden EP I enjoy a lot. Ed's voice is g...   Oct 30 2016, 8:55 pm
Shared Belief   side note - i agree shinn should have gotten bette...   Oct 31 2016, 10:56 am
vivapokey   side note - i agree shinn should have gotten bett...   Oct 31 2016, 11:12 am
alexou   His version of POD as I've mentioned before, ...   Oct 31 2016, 11:27 am
Voodoo Lady   VivaPokey--When and where was the show you speak o...   Oct 31 2016, 12:25 pm
vivapokey   VivaPokey--When and where was the show you speak ...   Oct 31 2016, 12:34 pm
Voodoo Lady   It was the Atlantic City TC anniversary show. The...   Oct 31 2016, 1:50 pm
vivapokey   There you go being defensive and arguing again. I...   Nov 1 2016, 12:22 am
Shared Belief   the first 4 songs on the turn are a a very strong ...   Oct 31 2016, 1:13 pm
vivapokey   That's hilarious that rather than taking a sec...   Nov 1 2016, 12:32 am
Bremang   brevity is the soul of wit -William Shakespeare (...   Nov 1 2016, 2:19 am
vivapokey   Quoted as part of one of Shakespeare's lengthi...   Nov 1 2016, 3:08 am
figure8   I personally think that Chris did have some balls ...   Nov 1 2016, 3:22 am
figure8   Forgot to mention, even thought I was not fond of ...   Nov 1 2016, 3:24 am
Bremang   Forgot to mention, even thought I was not fond of...   Nov 1 2016, 1:05 pm
Bremang   True. Even though i think tfg might put out better...   Nov 1 2016, 1:03 pm
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