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post Nov 13 2014, 12:19 pm
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I was personally hoping for a bonus disc with "the turn" that contained "hold me up" and maybe some b-sides off "the turn". I think "hold me up" and other songs like "Cheetah", etc.. should be released, i want good versions of these. Now is the time!

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post Dec 7 2014, 11:16 pm
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We would all Pledge for clean copies of

Hold me up
Susquehanna
Cheetah
Mallrat
Photograph
Still Aroused
Change
Don't Wait


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post Dec 8 2014, 10:59 am
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QUOTE(Bremang @ Dec 7 2014, 11:16 pm) *

We would all Pledge for clean copies of

Hold me up
Susquehanna
Cheetah
Mallrat
Photograph
Still Aroused
Change
Don't Wait


Don't we have Mallrat and Photograph already? They seem pretty clean to me, maybe not 100% album mastered/produced but the recording is a clean studio recording.


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post Dec 8 2014, 2:39 pm
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QUOTE(PurdueSteve @ Dec 8 2014, 11:59 am) *


Don't we have Mallrat and Photograph already? They seem pretty clean to me, maybe not 100% album mastered/produced but the recording is a clean studio recording.


But those are demos.


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post Dec 8 2014, 6:02 pm
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QUOTE(Bremang @ Dec 8 2014, 2:39 pm) *

But those are demos.



pretty sure these are fully mastered tracks. Here is the proof:

http://allthingschadtaylor.blogspot.com/

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SECRET SAMADHI, 1996 (San Francisco, CA, Los Angeles, CA & New York, NY) age, 26yrs.
MEDIA FORMAT: 2” MASTER, PRO-TOOLS, ½” MASTER, DAT

This album was a cluster-fuck to record. We started in San Francisco, CA only to find that the studio had a buzz sound that transferred to every channel of the console and tape machine. We searched high and low to find a studio nearby but had to settle on LA. After moving tons of vintage recording gear and instruments to Los Angeles, Ed had a terrible allergic reaction to the house dog that lived in the studio. We fired Jay (as we had already spent several hundred thousand dollars and didn’t have a note recorded) and headed home to regroup. The entire band was depressed – it was truly our first major failure and we would have to struggle to gather ourselves and continue. After a short break, Jay called Ed and I pushing to use The Hit Factory in NYC, a well-known buzz and pet free studio. We could start in a week if we agreed to put him back on board as producer. We added a 40-piece orchestra to Lakin’s Juice and Turn My Head and once again tracked the band without click tracks live in a large room. The only overdubs were vocal doubles (very few harmonies), guitar solos (although GasHed and Graze were cut live) and the string sections. We wanted a raw record and got it (funny that it is our rawest recording that also got called over-produced). This is my all-time favorite Live album and the one I felt most represented my sonic vision of the band. When I listen to this album I am driven to tears. I can feel us let go and flow musically like at no other point in our career. I can’t imagine how much better it would have been if we would have not had the stops and stats associated with San Fran and LA. Tom Lord-Alge would once again add the finishing touches. Mall Rat & Photograph are finished masters. Pop Vortex would come from the Shadow Hill sessions and “Crayons” was an early lyric to Century; “come on, come on, return to crayons.”


what i have in mp3 format certainly sound totally finished. And they're that damn good too.


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pretty sure these are fully mastered tracks. Here is the proof:

http://allthingschadtaylor.blogspot.com/



what i have in mp3 format certainly sound totally finished. And they're that damn good too.


nice find. I recall Chad saying Churchbox sessions did not make it onto the album, which makes me wonder if there's another studio produced/finished version of mallrat and photograph that were from the sessions that made the cut.


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QUOTE(Bremang @ Dec 8 2014, 7:03 pm) *

nice find. I recall Chad saying Churchbox sessions did not make it onto the album, which makes me wonder if there's another studio produced/finished version of mallrat and photograph that were from the sessions that made the cut.


CCP gave these away, I see no reason they'd give something other than the best they had. I've never heard of there being rights to a produced track but there not be rights to the exact same albeit unproduced studio track.


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QUOTE(PurdueSteve @ Dec 9 2014, 9:15 am) *


CCP gave these away, I see no reason they'd give something other than the best they had. I've never heard of there being rights to a produced track but there not be rights to the exact same albeit unproduced studio track.


Chad's opinion was that Churchbox was better than whatever sessions made it onto the album, but I'd still take as many versions of as many Live songs as I can get a hold of!


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