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post Nov 13 2014, 12:19 pm
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I was personally hoping for a bonus disc with "the turn" that contained "hold me up" and maybe some b-sides off "the turn". I think "hold me up" and other songs like "Cheetah", etc.. should be released, i want good versions of these. Now is the time!

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post Nov 13 2014, 6:20 pm
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I'm assuming the original poster is insinuating they release Hold Me Up and other rarities covered by Shinn? For CS sing one of the most beautiful love songs (Hold Me Up) and IMO, one of the most beautiful songs that Ed Kowalczyk ever wrote would be wrong ON SO MANY LEVELS!
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post Nov 13 2014, 6:24 pm
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QUOTE(Voodoo Lady @ Nov 13 2014, 7:20 pm) *

For CS sing one of the most beautiful love songs (Hold Me Up) and IMO, one of the most beautiful songs that Ed Kowalczyk ever wrote would be wrong ON SO MANY LEVELS!
I think I would spontaneously combust, I would be so angry. bomb.gif


There are more important things in life to get so emotional about. laugh.gif


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post Nov 13 2014, 6:29 pm
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QUOTE(SinfulEyes @ Nov 13 2014, 5:24 pm) *

There are more important things in life to get so emotional about. laugh.gif


I'm sorry, I don't drink Ed Hater-Aid as you do.
CS covering songs from MJ, TC & SS has been distasteful enough.


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QUOTE(Voodoo Lady @ Nov 13 2014, 7:29 pm) *

I'm sorry, I don't drink Ed Hater-Aid as you do.
CS covering songs from MJ, TC & SS has been distasteful enough.


I'm actually over hating on Ed. He and his fans appear to be enjoying his post-Live solo thing.

However, I find it unhealthy and questionable for people to worship him (or any mortal man for that matter) and kiss the ground he walks on.


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QUOTE(SinfulEyes @ Nov 13 2014, 5:41 pm) *

I'm actually over hating on Ed. He and his fans appear to be enjoying his post-Live solo thing.

However, I find it unhealthy and questionable for people to worship him (or any mortal man for that matter) and kiss the ground he walks on.


That's good. You should maybe consider changing your Ed hating avatar then??

And as an Ed fan, I don't enjoy his post-Live solo thing, nor do I worship him or kiss the ground he walks on. I would find that questionable as well, because he is no better a human than you or I, just happens to possess a skill set you (?) nor I have.


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post Nov 13 2014, 6:55 pm
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QUOTE(Voodoo Lady @ Nov 13 2014, 7:50 pm) *

That's good. You should maybe consider changing your Ed hating avatar then??

And as an Ed fan, I don't enjoy his post-Live solo thing, nor do I worship him or kiss the ground he walks on. I would find that questionable as well, because he is no better a human than you or I, just happens to possess a skill set you (?) nor I have.


I actually spent quite a bit of time in Microsoft Paint creating the image in my avatar. Besides that I think it's quite fitting considering how things went down in his latter years with Live.

If it really bothers you, I believe you can disable your browser from seeing my avatar in your forum settings.


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QUOTE(SinfulEyes @ Nov 13 2014, 5:55 pm) *

I actually spent quite a bit of time in Microsoft Paint creating the image in my avatar. Besides that I think it's quite fitting considering how things went down in his latter years with Live.

If it really bothers you, I believe you can disable your browser from seeing my avatar in your forum settings.


No, the avatar doesn't bother me, just commenting on what seems like a contradiction, is all.
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post Nov 13 2014, 7:13 pm
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QUOTE(Voodoo Lady @ Nov 13 2014, 8:02 pm) *

No, the avatar doesn't bother me, just commenting on what seems like a contradiction, is all.
I'm already aware of all of my forum settings, features, and what-not, thank you kindly. smile.gif


I understand. You're welcome. Keep in mind I created this avatar during the height of the Ed v. CCP fiasco. The band has since moved on without him and coincidentally so have I.


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post Nov 13 2014, 7:36 pm
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QUOTE(SinfulEyes @ Nov 13 2014, 6:13 pm) *

I understand. You're welcome. Keep in mind I created this avatar during the height of the Ed v. CCP fiasco. The band has since moved on without him and coincidentally so have I.


Yes, what a coincidence.


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QUOTE(Voodoo Lady @ Nov 13 2014, 8:36 pm) *

Yes, what a coincidence.


OK you caught me. It wasn't a coincidence.

Over 10 years of frustration over the type of music Live was producing with Ed was completely washed away with the release of the The Turn.

What I hope for is the new music reaches the fringe and casual fans who long abandoned Live altogether and their passion for their original music when they heard the likes of V and SFBM.


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QUOTE(SinfulEyes @ Nov 13 2014, 6:41 pm) *

OK you caught me. It wasn't a coincidence.

Over 10 years of frustration over the type of music Live was producing with Ed was completely washed away with the release of the The Turn.

What I hope for is the new music reaches the fringe and casual fans who long abandoned Live altogether and their passion for their original music when they heard the likes of V and SFBM.


I understand, as I am a frustrated +LIVE+ fan as well. I am frustrated of those that can say that Chris Shinn is the cat's meow. I'm not blind or deaf, so I'm like, "What the hell!?" huh.gif
I am also honest to admit I'm envious of other fans' satisfaction with CS, because I too, would like to move on and be excited. The Turn is... okay. I'm trying, listening repeatedly and just continuing to hope for better.


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QUOTE(Voodoo Lady @ Nov 13 2014, 7:56 pm) *

I understand, as I am a frustrated +LIVE+ fan as well. I am frustrated of those that can say that Chris Shinn is the cat's meow. I'm not blind or deaf, so I'm like, "What the hell!?" huh.gif
I am also honest to admit I'm envious of other fans' satisfaction with CS, because I too, would like to move on and be excited. The Turn is... okay. I'm trying, listening repeatedly and just continuing to hope for better.


I don't think Chris is the "Cat's Meow", but it clicked for me when I realized that he was better sounding Live lead singer, and can do better covers (if one wants to call it that) of Throwing Copper era songs in 2014 than 2014-Ed can. He sounds more true to the original. Ed sounds more like the cover act. It's bizzare.

I think they did choose someone that had vocal characteristics similar to Ed, and I do think they produced the album with some continuity in mind, rather than just go all out of someone dramatically different. This isn't a bad thing, although some would surely try to spin it as such.


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QUOTE(PurdueSteve @ Dec 8 2014, 11:03 am) *

I don't think Chris is the "Cat's Meow", but it clicked for me when I realized that he was better sounding Live lead singer, and can do better covers (if one wants to call it that) of Throwing Copper era songs in 2014 than 2014-Ed can. He sounds more true to the original. Ed sounds more like the cover act. It's bizzare.

I think they did choose someone that had vocal characteristics similar to Ed, and I do think they produced the album with some continuity in mind, rather than just go all out of someone dramatically different. This isn't a bad thing, although some would surely try to spin it as such.


Releasing old Live music that Ed helped wrote without Ed is like CCCP throwing in the towel on penning their own stuff.

Now if the original four wanted to re-record those tracks, that would be pretty awesome.


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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Dec 8 2014, 3:30 pm) *

Releasing old Live music that Ed helped wrote without Ed is like CCCP throwing in the towel on penning their own stuff.

Now if the original four wanted to re-record those tracks, that would be pretty awesome.


They didn't "release" it. A few die hards got it, but it's not like you can find it on iTunes. You make it sound like they are selling re-recorded Throwing Copper tracks. Let it go, CCP clearly did it as a teaser, nothing more.


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