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Live's new album "The Turn" debuted at #133 on the Billboard 200 album chart in the US.

For comparison how other Live albums did on the chart:

V-22
BOP- 28
SFBM-52
Alive and The Gracious Few- 160's

The latest albums from other 90's bands:

Bush-33
Better Than Ezra-42
Counting Crows-6
Everclear-119

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The Live "brand" (if it even exists) in it's entirety is not a singular style.

It goes from raw dynamic mental jewelry,

to bizarrely awesome throwing copper,

and increases in overproduction and darkness for SS,

and becomes part of the loudness wars and gets softer and more "love" themed in TDTH,

and gets hyper poppy and topical on V with undertones of spirituality,

and gets really chunky and syrupy for BOP,

and super soft and mellow, and adult contemporary for BOP

....with Radiant Sea and Paradiso following suit with mature contemporary music.

You can say that each album departed from the brand of it's predecessor, and therefore Live detracted from it's brand throughout their career.

You can say the first four albums were the real Live, but that isn't true as long as CCP signed the dotted line for every Live release.

The charts do not reflect fanfare accurately for all of Live's fans. Trends in methods of purchasing music and trends in popular musical styles will have a major influence on the final numbers.

No fan's opinion will be an official statement for the opinions of tons of other fans, or Live's success. Everyone can speak for themselves, and Live's success will be measured by how CCP feel about the music.


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SJN1279   Live's The Turn on the Charts   Nov 6 2014, 7:32 am
Costakoui   Live's new album "The Turn" debuted...   Nov 6 2014, 7:38 am
SJN1279   It didn't chart on Billboard's Indie album...   Nov 6 2014, 7:59 am
PurdueSteve   Live's new album "The Turn" debuted...   Nov 6 2014, 8:22 am
SJN1279   By your own metric of success you can see the dec...   Nov 6 2014, 8:29 am
PurdueSteve   The decline started in the 2000's, but I thou...   Nov 6 2014, 9:04 am
Live4Life   They have righted the ship, now it's just dis...   Nov 6 2014, 2:39 pm
PurdueSteve   Excuse me chicken boy. Just because you dislike o...   Nov 6 2014, 3:07 pm
SinfulEyes   I've heard nothing but positive remarks on th...   Nov 6 2014, 2:50 pm
Live4Life   Great. Now why did you have to go and wake ...   Nov 6 2014, 2:58 pm
SinfulEyes   Hey look it's super troll number two.   Nov 6 2014, 3:03 pm
Costakoui   The decline started in the 2000's, but I thou...   Nov 6 2014, 10:47 am
turningstones   The decline started in the 2000's, but I thou...   Nov 6 2014, 9:55 pm
SJN1279   So you don't see anyone else slamming Ed for ...   Nov 6 2014, 10:10 pm
SJN1279   Oh, and you can be sure if Ed revived Live with a ...   Nov 6 2014, 10:20 pm
turningstones   Oh, and you can be sure if Ed revived Live with a...   Nov 6 2014, 10:32 pm
turningstones   I don't begrudge them making music, or tourin...   Nov 6 2014, 10:35 pm
ThrowgnCpr   lol, you don't give up. I'm glad this non...   Nov 6 2014, 8:36 am
ThrowgnCpr   there are definitely lingering effects of the 2000...   Nov 6 2014, 9:17 am
SJN1279   there are definitely lingering effects of the 200...   Nov 6 2014, 12:05 pm
+AllOverMe+   Fans of Live Charts: Debuted at #1 WD.com Charts...   Nov 6 2014, 1:05 pm
Costakoui   Ed hasn't been in Live since 2009. Live refo...   Nov 6 2014, 1:23 pm
ThrowgnCpr   Ed hasn't been in Live since 2009. Live refo...   Nov 6 2014, 1:29 pm
SinfulEyes   Clearly his trolling is working since everyone is ...   Nov 6 2014, 1:35 pm
figure8   Live's new album "The Turn" debuted...   Nov 6 2014, 9:47 am
SinfulEyes   The only thing the OP proves is that Ed sank the b...   Nov 6 2014, 10:49 am
Unsheathed   How did the flood and the mercy do on the charts?   Nov 6 2014, 1:05 pm
Costakoui   How did the flood and the mercy do on the charts?...   Nov 6 2014, 1:27 pm
SinfulEyes   By the way, I really haven't seen this board t...   Nov 6 2014, 1:36 pm
PurdueSteve   Here's an image of some unsuccessful touring t...   Nov 6 2014, 1:55 pm
SinfulEyes   Here's an image of some unsuccessful touring ...   Nov 6 2014, 2:14 pm
SJN1279   Here's an image of some unsuccessful touring ...   Nov 6 2014, 2:27 pm
SinfulEyes   Live's first appearance in England in over 5 ...   Nov 6 2014, 2:28 pm
SJN1279   Live works best with the four original members. I...   Nov 6 2014, 2:37 pm
WaiterAtCliftons   Live works best with the four original members. ...   Nov 6 2014, 2:40 pm
ThrowgnCpr   Live works best with the four original members. ...   Nov 6 2014, 2:41 pm
SinfulEyes   False. I think they've made it pretty clear ...   Nov 6 2014, 2:48 pm
Live4Life   The original band is NEVER going to get back toge...   Nov 6 2014, 3:04 pm
PurdueSteve   It was Ed that was being treated like crap and c...   Nov 6 2014, 3:09 pm
SJN1279   That's why all of the managers and everyone b...   Nov 6 2014, 7:06 pm
PurdueSteve   Ed made this band famous with his songwriting and...   Nov 6 2014, 3:10 pm
Bremang   Live works best with the four original members. ...   Nov 6 2014, 3:45 pm
WaiterAtCliftons   Oh and the cheesy singing in the audience routine...   Nov 6 2014, 2:37 pm
ThrowgnCpr   I am a dude. I have 2 cats. Listen, I have no pr...   Nov 6 2014, 3:03 pm
Live4Life   I am a dude. I have 2 cats. Listen, I have no p...   Nov 6 2014, 3:09 pm
SinfulEyes   Nice. You are a crazy cat boy. I have no problem...   Nov 6 2014, 3:13 pm
Live4Life   why are you posting in this section of the forum ...   Nov 6 2014, 3:48 pm
SinfulEyes   Because you WERE one of them and you know this. ...   Nov 6 2014, 4:11 pm
Live4Life   I may think you're a complete whack job, whic...   Nov 6 2014, 4:23 pm
+AllOverMe+   It's a war zone indeed. If a newbie say that, ...   Nov 6 2014, 4:51 pm
Voodoo Lady   just my two cents, if you'ré not a fan of L...   Nov 6 2014, 8:39 pm
turningstones   found this place, thought it was a place for Live ...   Nov 6 2014, 3:37 pm
SinfulEyes   found this place, thought it was a place for Live...   Nov 6 2014, 3:46 pm
Live4Life   Welcome aboard and make yourself feel at home. Ce...   Nov 6 2014, 3:51 pm
SinfulEyes   See, this is what i'm talking about. WHO th...   Nov 6 2014, 4:12 pm
Unsheathed   found this place, thought it was a place for Live...   Nov 6 2014, 9:03 pm
turningstones   I agree with this. Too many sweaty palms, sweaty ...   Nov 6 2014, 9:51 pm
Frasbul   Nick, as you seem to know about this stuff: Why di...   Nov 6 2014, 7:55 pm
SJN1279   Nick, as you seem to know about this stuff: Why d...   Nov 6 2014, 9:03 pm
alexou   Well, that thread was a tough read to say the leas...   Nov 6 2014, 8:26 pm
WaiterAtCliftons   I was honestly shocked when I found out that TFATM...   Nov 6 2014, 9:40 pm
Live4Life   It shouldn't matter why nick comes here. It s...   Nov 7 2014, 12:26 am
SJN1279   The Live "brand" (if it even exists) in...   Nov 7 2014, 7:25 am
Costakoui   Live's brand is strongest with all four origi...   Nov 7 2014, 7:39 am
WaiterAtCliftons   Live's brand is strongest with all four origi...   Nov 7 2014, 7:59 am
SJN1279   It has been 8 years since the last "LIVE...   Nov 7 2014, 8:21 am
alexou   Albums for most indie bands have one week to char...   Nov 7 2014, 8:57 am
SinfulEyes   Albums for most indie bands have one week to char...   Nov 7 2014, 11:16 am
Soxwsc   Sometimes I feel bad for Nick. This quote tells m...   Nov 7 2014, 1:32 pm
Bremang   Live's brand is strongest with all four ori...   Nov 7 2014, 1:48 pm
turningstones   this place is surely a war zone. the sjn keeps m...   Nov 7 2014, 8:54 am
turningstones   i see from the social media places that the turn t...   Nov 7 2014, 9:10 am
alexou   i see from the social media places that the turn ...   Nov 7 2014, 10:57 am
ThrowgnCpr   now I remember why I never posted and barely read ...   Nov 7 2014, 10:36 am
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