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Live's new album "The Turn" debuted at #133 on the Billboard 200 album chart in the US.

For comparison how other Live albums did on the chart:

V-22
BOP- 28
SFBM-52
Alive and The Gracious Few- 160's

The latest albums from other 90's bands:

Bush-33
Better Than Ezra-42
Counting Crows-6
Everclear-119

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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Nov 6 2014, 7:32 am) *

Live's new album "The Turn" debuted at #133 on the Billboard 200 album chart in the US.

For comparison how other Live albums did on the chart:

V-22
BOP- 28
SFBM-52
Alive and The Gracious Few- 160's

The latest albums from other 90's bands:

Bush-33
Better Than Ezra-42
Counting Crows-6
Everclear-119


By your own metric of success you can see the decline from V on.

Thanks for proving what we've all be saying, it's been on a steady decline since TDTH and all value of the brand diminished. What did you truly expect of a new Live album? After the garbage that's been put out starting with V?

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post Nov 6 2014, 8:29 am
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QUOTE(PurdueSteve @ Nov 6 2014, 8:22 am) *

By your own metric of success you can see the decline from V on.

Thanks for proving what we've all be saying, it's been on a steady decline since TDTH and all value of the brand diminished. What did you truly expect of a new Live album? After the garbage that's been put out starting with V?


The decline started in the 2000's, but I thought CCP were supposed to right the ship with Ed gone. They would bring Live back to the music of their 90's heyday. Instead they created Live's lowest charting album by a mile.


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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Nov 6 2014, 8:29 am) *

The decline started in the 2000's, but I thought CCP were supposed to right the ship with Ed gone. They would bring Live back to the music of their 90's heyday. Instead they created Live's lowest charting album by a mile.



So you don't see anyone else slamming Ed for not promoting his record and poo pooing all this chart nonsense.

What grudge do you hold against these men? Did they harm you personally? It's an honest question.

If you're not with following Live with Chris Shinn, and it seems many are invigorated by the change, be a man and leave for other pastures and spend your energies on something more constructive to society.

....Or discuss Ed with good intentions in his area. I have seen what's gone on here by looking around. Interesting that a LIVE board allows all this slamming of the band which is currently CCCP. Weird for sure.

And for what it's worth some people may want to know, i see a comment that The Turn didn't make some charts....by this same person who's steering the conversation to what it appears to be an angst ridden agenda.

I think that statement was made with the interest of trolling without checking facts.

In fact, i see it made 5 of the Billboard charts in the first week including the Indy Albums which LIVE is released as.


The Billboard 200
Live The Turn
2014-11-15
#133 1

Top Rock Albums
Live The Turn
2014-11-15 #30 1

Alternative Albums
Live The Turn
2014-11-15 #16 1

Independent Albums
Live The Turn
2014-11-15 #29 1

Top Current Albums
Live The Turn
2014-11-15 #116 1


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QUOTE(turningstones @ Nov 6 2014, 9:55 pm) *

So you don't see anyone else slamming Ed for not promoting his record and poo pooing all this chart nonsense.

What grudge do you hold against these men? Did they harm you personally? It's an honest question.

If you're not with following Live with Chris Shinn, and it seems many are invigorated by the change, be a man and leave for other pastures and spend your energies on something more constructive to society.

....Or discuss Ed with good intentions in his area. I have seen what's gone on here by looking around. Interesting that a LIVE board allows all this slamming of the band which is currently CCCP. Weird for sure.

And for what it's worth some people may want to know, i see a comment that The Turn didn't make some charts....by this same person who's steering the conversation to what it appears to be an angst ridden agenda.

I think that statement was made with the interest of trolling without checking facts.

In fact, i see it made 5 of the Billboard charts in the first week including the Indy Albums which LIVE is released as.
The Billboard 200
Live The Turn
2014-11-15
#133 1

Top Rock Albums
Live The Turn
2014-11-15 #30 1

Alternative Albums
Live The Turn
2014-11-15 #16 1

Independent Albums
Live The Turn
2014-11-15 #29 1

Top Current Albums
Live The Turn
2014-11-15 #116 1



I don't begrudge them making music, or touring. I just don't think they should do it as Live. Especially since they are basically killing the Live brand that they built with Ed by doing so.

#133 on Billboard for a Live album is horrible. Not selling out an under 500 venue in NYC is terrible for Live, especially on the week of their album release. Live without Ed, is not a Live most people want to see. It is as simple as that.

On Billboard's website, it only goes up to #25 on indie, that is why I didn't see The Turn at 29.

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SJN1279   Live's The Turn on the Charts   Nov 6 2014, 7:32 am
Costakoui   Live's new album "The Turn" debuted...   Nov 6 2014, 7:38 am
SJN1279   It didn't chart on Billboard's Indie album...   Nov 6 2014, 7:59 am
PurdueSteve   The decline started in the 2000's, but I thou...   Nov 6 2014, 9:04 am
Live4Life   They have righted the ship, now it's just dis...   Nov 6 2014, 2:39 pm
PurdueSteve   Excuse me chicken boy. Just because you dislike o...   Nov 6 2014, 3:07 pm
SinfulEyes   I've heard nothing but positive remarks on th...   Nov 6 2014, 2:50 pm
Live4Life   Great. Now why did you have to go and wake ...   Nov 6 2014, 2:58 pm
SinfulEyes   Hey look it's super troll number two.   Nov 6 2014, 3:03 pm
Costakoui   The decline started in the 2000's, but I thou...   Nov 6 2014, 10:47 am
SJN1279   Oh, and you can be sure if Ed revived Live with a ...   Nov 6 2014, 10:20 pm
turningstones   Oh, and you can be sure if Ed revived Live with a...   Nov 6 2014, 10:32 pm
turningstones   I don't begrudge them making music, or tourin...   Nov 6 2014, 10:35 pm
ThrowgnCpr   lol, you don't give up. I'm glad this non...   Nov 6 2014, 8:36 am
ThrowgnCpr   there are definitely lingering effects of the 2000...   Nov 6 2014, 9:17 am
SJN1279   there are definitely lingering effects of the 200...   Nov 6 2014, 12:05 pm
+AllOverMe+   Fans of Live Charts: Debuted at #1 WD.com Charts...   Nov 6 2014, 1:05 pm
Costakoui   Ed hasn't been in Live since 2009. Live refo...   Nov 6 2014, 1:23 pm
ThrowgnCpr   Ed hasn't been in Live since 2009. Live refo...   Nov 6 2014, 1:29 pm
SinfulEyes   Clearly his trolling is working since everyone is ...   Nov 6 2014, 1:35 pm
figure8   Live's new album "The Turn" debuted...   Nov 6 2014, 9:47 am
SinfulEyes   The only thing the OP proves is that Ed sank the b...   Nov 6 2014, 10:49 am
Unsheathed   How did the flood and the mercy do on the charts?   Nov 6 2014, 1:05 pm
Costakoui   How did the flood and the mercy do on the charts?...   Nov 6 2014, 1:27 pm
SinfulEyes   By the way, I really haven't seen this board t...   Nov 6 2014, 1:36 pm
PurdueSteve   Here's an image of some unsuccessful touring t...   Nov 6 2014, 1:55 pm
SinfulEyes   Here's an image of some unsuccessful touring ...   Nov 6 2014, 2:14 pm
SJN1279   Here's an image of some unsuccessful touring ...   Nov 6 2014, 2:27 pm
SinfulEyes   Live's first appearance in England in over 5 ...   Nov 6 2014, 2:28 pm
SJN1279   Live works best with the four original members. I...   Nov 6 2014, 2:37 pm
WaiterAtCliftons   Live works best with the four original members. ...   Nov 6 2014, 2:40 pm
ThrowgnCpr   Live works best with the four original members. ...   Nov 6 2014, 2:41 pm
SinfulEyes   False. I think they've made it pretty clear ...   Nov 6 2014, 2:48 pm
Live4Life   The original band is NEVER going to get back toge...   Nov 6 2014, 3:04 pm
PurdueSteve   It was Ed that was being treated like crap and c...   Nov 6 2014, 3:09 pm
SJN1279   That's why all of the managers and everyone b...   Nov 6 2014, 7:06 pm
PurdueSteve   Ed made this band famous with his songwriting and...   Nov 6 2014, 3:10 pm
Bremang   Live works best with the four original members. ...   Nov 6 2014, 3:45 pm
WaiterAtCliftons   Oh and the cheesy singing in the audience routine...   Nov 6 2014, 2:37 pm
ThrowgnCpr   I am a dude. I have 2 cats. Listen, I have no pr...   Nov 6 2014, 3:03 pm
Live4Life   I am a dude. I have 2 cats. Listen, I have no p...   Nov 6 2014, 3:09 pm
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Live4Life   why are you posting in this section of the forum ...   Nov 6 2014, 3:48 pm
SinfulEyes   Because you WERE one of them and you know this. ...   Nov 6 2014, 4:11 pm
Live4Life   I may think you're a complete whack job, whic...   Nov 6 2014, 4:23 pm
+AllOverMe+   It's a war zone indeed. If a newbie say that, ...   Nov 6 2014, 4:51 pm
Voodoo Lady   just my two cents, if you'ré not a fan of L...   Nov 6 2014, 8:39 pm
turningstones   found this place, thought it was a place for Live ...   Nov 6 2014, 3:37 pm
SinfulEyes   found this place, thought it was a place for Live...   Nov 6 2014, 3:46 pm
Live4Life   Welcome aboard and make yourself feel at home. Ce...   Nov 6 2014, 3:51 pm
SinfulEyes   See, this is what i'm talking about. WHO th...   Nov 6 2014, 4:12 pm
Unsheathed   found this place, thought it was a place for Live...   Nov 6 2014, 9:03 pm
turningstones   I agree with this. Too many sweaty palms, sweaty ...   Nov 6 2014, 9:51 pm
Frasbul   Nick, as you seem to know about this stuff: Why di...   Nov 6 2014, 7:55 pm
SJN1279   Nick, as you seem to know about this stuff: Why d...   Nov 6 2014, 9:03 pm
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SJN1279   The Live "brand" (if it even exists) in...   Nov 7 2014, 7:25 am
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alexou   Albums for most indie bands have one week to char...   Nov 7 2014, 8:57 am
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