Live's The Turn on the Charts Options

[SJN1279]

Live's new album "The Turn" debuted at #133 on the Billboard 200 album chart in the US.

For comparison how other Live albums did on the chart:

V-22
BOP- 28
SFBM-52
Alive and The Gracious Few- 160's

The latest albums from other 90's bands:

Bush-33
Better Than Ezra-42
Counting Crows-6
Everclear-119

This post has been edited by SJN1279: Nov 6 2014, 7:44 am

[ThrowgnCpr]

there are definitely lingering effects of the 2000s era Live affecting sales. Blaming the current album for its weak initial reception is akin to blaming the shitty economy on an incoming president. Everyone knows that the outgoing administration fucked things up, but its easy to point the finger at the new guy.

Its going to take some time to build up momentum again. I don't they'll ever reach the same popularity as they did in the 90s, for countless reasons that have nothing to do with Live. As such, I think its silly to dwell too much on these chart ratings.

[SJN1279]

there are definitely lingering effects of the 2000s era Live affecting sales. Blaming the current album for its weak initial reception is akin to blaming the shitty economy on an incoming president. Everyone knows that the outgoing administration fucked things up, but its easy to point the finger at the new guy.

Its going to take some time to build up momentum again. I don't they'll ever reach the same popularity as they did in the 90s, for countless reasons that have nothing to do with Live. As such, I think its silly to dwell too much on these chart ratings.

Ed hasn't been in Live since 2009. Live reformed without Ed in early 2012. To blame Ed for Live's new album tanking in 2014 is truly ridiculous.

This post has been edited by SJN1279: Nov 6 2014, 12:06 pm

[ThrowgnCpr]

Ed hasn't been in Live since 2009. Live reformed without Ed in early 2012. To blame Ed for Live's new album tanking in 2014 is truly ridiculous.

hahaha, you really have trouble understanding even basic concepts, don't you? Listen, I know this may come as a shock, but most people don't follow the members of Live, and their last exposure to the band was Songs from Black Mountain. The cumulative effects of the last few albums have definitely impacted whether or not people purchase The Turn. If it weren't for this forum, and occasionally getting hopeful snippets of decent material, I would have passed on listening to the album as well. I have no interest in another Live album like the past three.

Here is an actual (seriously, this is a true story) conversation I had with a friend the other day:

me: Live has a new album out! have you heard it?

friend: LOL, No. their few albums were terrible. I'm not interested.

me: It's actually pretty good. You should listen to it. Some of the songs are the best they've done since Samadhi

friend: Yeah, right. Does Ed still sing about water, Jesus and his daughter?

me: LOL, I'm sure he does, but he's not in the band anymore. They have a new singer.

friend: huh. maybe I'll check it out.


I would bet this is a fairly typical conversation about the band these days.

This post has been edited by ThrowgnCpr: Nov 6 2014, 1:30 pm

[SinfulEyes]

Clearly his trolling is working since everyone is riled up. Back in the day, the troll would message me in AIM chat saying how he only posts on here to tick off the CCP regulars whom have since gone over to White Discussion.

Hopefully the real Live fans around here that are enjoying the new music stick around and stay active.