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Good post Andy, you are more than welcome here.
And i enjoyed your review about The Turn wink.gif


Thank you! It feels good to be passionate about a Live album again. I was extremely skeptical of Chris Shinn at first, but I think they tailor made the album to play to his strengths, while re-inventing themselves in a manner that gives them at least a shot of being relevant again. Will some people look up at the stage and cringe when they don't see Ed up there? Absolutely. But, like I said, keeping an open mind is important. I was pleasantly surprised. I look forward to seeing some of the songs in person.

Now that I've broken the seal, maybe I'll speak up a little more. I don't know the insides of the band and I barely know the story of what drove them apart. All I know is the music. Live was number one to me back when I was younger, and a big part of that was Ed's vocals. Ed, much like Live has evolved. He is a different artist, now working in a different genre. People in the Christian Rock world probably eat up what he has to offer. I said it before, I thought that Alive was a good album...and I'm not into that genre. I think that CCCP have evolved as well. If you keep an open mind, it really can be a win/win for everyone in both camps. There really isn't much reason for hate. All you have to do is ask yourself the question. Is Ed better off right now going on his own? Yes. It gives him the freedom to do what he wants at his leisure without having any creative strife with his band. Is Live better off now with Chris instead of Ed? Yes. Chris allows the band to move towards the creative direction that they wanted to go, while having a serviceable vocalist who can even hold his own singing some of the old stuff. If Live was in its original lineup, you would more than likely see an album that was the composite of two artistic mindsets going in opposite directions. In cases like that, you get albums that are half hearted, and lacking in chemistry. If you are a fan of Live, and you have an open mind, you win based on the fact that at least all of the members in its original lineup are creatively dedicating 100% to their efforts. Personally, I love it.


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RobB   The Turn - Full Album on iTunes US now   Oct 27 2014, 12:07 am
Costakoui   It's here! Lucky you! I preordered...   Oct 27 2014, 1:27 am
dangum   Lucky you! I preordered with pledge. How is i...   Oct 27 2014, 2:12 am
Costakoui   Pledgers should get mp3s of the album today... ...   Oct 27 2014, 2:23 am
+AllOverMe+   Got the download from Pledge. I asked CT on Facebo...   Oct 27 2014, 2:47 pm
PurdueSteve   Got the download from Pledge. I asked CT on Faceb...   Oct 27 2014, 4:26 pm
+AllOverMe+   My review of The Turn: 01. Siren's Call 9/10 ...   Oct 27 2014, 5:00 pm
mattyeagles   My review of The Turn: 01. Siren's Call 9/10...   Oct 27 2014, 5:42 pm
Voodoo Lady   SHINN IS A KILLER FRONTMAN. Mike Patton is a KI...   Oct 27 2014, 5:55 pm
Costakoui   Mike Patton is a KILLER FRONTMAN. Ozzy Osbourne ...   Oct 28 2014, 12:04 am
Voodoo Lady   What are you trying to do here, to convince us so...   Oct 28 2014, 2:09 pm
Costakoui   I am stating that Shinn's subpar vocals are O...   Oct 29 2014, 1:16 am
Costakoui   Mike Patton is a KILLER FRONTMAN. Ozzy Osbourne ...   Oct 28 2014, 11:53 am
Voodoo Lady   Steven Taylor? Ok Ozzy Osbourne killer frontmant...   Oct 28 2014, 2:16 pm
baggieneil   Agree awesome track.sounds brilliant cranked up :r...   Oct 27 2014, 4:03 pm
Unsheathed   I've been listening to all the tracks on youtu...   Oct 27 2014, 6:17 pm
zmanpga   haters will hate but CCCP keep moving on.....what...   Oct 28 2014, 5:08 am
WaiterAtCliftons   I'm so happy to have back the heavy guitars an...   Oct 28 2014, 8:37 am
sellingthdrama   I'm so happy to have back the heavy guitars a...   Oct 28 2014, 9:12 am
WaiterAtCliftons   Dave Grohl commented on Live? Interesting. I...   Oct 28 2014, 1:26 pm
Soxwsc   BOP was much more well received than their previou...   Oct 28 2014, 9:51 am
+AllOverMe+   Yes, i really think Chris is a killer frontman. It...   Oct 28 2014, 11:22 am
Voodoo Lady   Yes, i really think Chris is a killer frontman. I...   Oct 28 2014, 2:22 pm
Costakoui   BOP was much more well received than their previo...   Oct 28 2014, 12:14 pm
Soxwsc   I don't think that there is consensus that Bo...   Oct 28 2014, 12:30 pm
Costakoui   Again, I think it's just a matter of taste be...   Oct 28 2014, 12:39 pm
Soxwsc   A phenomenal song? Ok, I have no words. Even if i...   Oct 28 2014, 12:52 pm
Costakoui   It's on my phone so I'm listening to it n...   Oct 28 2014, 1:54 pm
Bremang   It's on my phone so I'm listening to it...   Oct 28 2014, 2:07 pm
throwing_cheetahs   I can listen to that album from start to finish a...   Oct 28 2014, 4:29 pm
SecretInsomnia   By the way, did anyone else notice Amazon's d...   Oct 28 2014, 5:35 pm
Hoodstock   I think they counted Paradiso including 2 new son...   Oct 28 2014, 7:36 pm
dangum   Maybe they counted TGF. I doubt it.   Oct 29 2014, 1:15 am
flyersfan62379   This is the album I've waited 15 years for. I...   Oct 28 2014, 1:29 pm
Bremang   01. Siren's Call 8/10 02. Don't Run To Wai...   Oct 28 2014, 2:23 pm
Voodoo Lady   Lol! :) Nice post, man! I'm in tota...   Oct 28 2014, 2:38 pm
WaiterAtCliftons   Rogerton is overrated (cheesy backstory/chorus so...   Oct 28 2014, 2:46 pm
Bremang   If you actually do know the backstory to this s...   Oct 28 2014, 2:51 pm
drewgood   If you actually do know the backstory to this son...   Oct 28 2014, 4:18 pm
IndyYakr   If you actually do know the backstory to this son...   Oct 29 2014, 1:26 am
PhoenixDecay   Does anyone read a message board in sequence? Brem...   Oct 29 2014, 4:57 am
Costakoui   Does anyone read a message board in sequence? Bre...   Oct 29 2014, 5:08 am
PhoenixDecay   Yeah, I am not very comfortable in rating an album...   Oct 29 2014, 5:59 am
Costakoui   Yeah, I am not very comfortable in rating an albu...   Oct 29 2014, 6:11 am
PhoenixDecay   Thankyou! I rarely ask of poeple to express t...   Oct 29 2014, 6:45 am
sellingthdrama   sometimes the animal in the songs isn't free...   Oct 29 2014, 9:15 am
SJN1279   Well-said! I have had this same thought sinc...   Oct 29 2014, 10:35 am
PhoenixDecay   Next album? Don't hold your breath. We can...   Oct 29 2014, 10:42 am
Costakoui   Well-said! I have had this same thought sinc...   Oct 29 2014, 11:20 am
PhoenixDecay   What animal are you talking about? The music was ...   Oct 29 2014, 11:55 am
Costakoui   I think it's hard to describe otherwise. A re...   Oct 29 2014, 12:55 pm
PhoenixDecay   The thing is you can identify all these because y...   Oct 29 2014, 1:22 pm
ThrowgnCpr   weak trolling is consistently weak   Oct 29 2014, 10:43 am
SJN1279   weak trolling is consistently weak No just bein...   Oct 29 2014, 12:12 pm
ThrowgnCpr   No just being realistic. There may be a second L...   Oct 29 2014, 12:24 pm
SJN1279   Of course it isn't happening in the near futu...   Oct 29 2014, 12:31 pm
ThrowgnCpr   With Ed Live released a new album every two years...   Oct 29 2014, 12:32 pm
SinfulEyes   With Ed Live released a new album every two years...   Oct 29 2014, 2:03 pm
SJN1279   Ed releases music quickly with compromise on qual...   Oct 29 2014, 2:07 pm
+AllOverMe+   Comparing Live to Nickelback...what should i say a...   Oct 29 2014, 2:12 pm
SinfulEyes   For me this "Live" album may is the wor...   Oct 29 2014, 3:02 pm
Hoodstock   For me this "Live" album may is the wor...   Oct 29 2014, 3:39 pm
Soxwsc   Ed's last album is the worst thing ever relea...   Oct 29 2014, 4:04 pm
SinfulEyes   You should have started with "For me", ...   Oct 29 2014, 4:45 pm
Bremang   The "me" you are referring to is a ve...   Oct 29 2014, 6:20 pm
Hoodstock   But that's not even what Hoodstock said. He...   Oct 29 2014, 6:22 pm
SJN1279   You should have started with "For me", ...   Oct 29 2014, 4:52 pm
SJN1279   I also believe that CCP need a strong frontman lik...   Oct 29 2014, 5:23 pm
Bremang   Ed's last album is the worst thing ever rele...   Oct 29 2014, 6:18 pm
obykya   This band seems so rejuvenated with Chris at the h...   Oct 29 2014, 5:32 pm
Hoodstock   My thoughts on this album: - In my opinion any re...   Oct 29 2014, 6:19 pm
Frasbul   On TFATM I really like: Seven Angels on a Razor H...   Oct 29 2014, 6:27 pm
Live4Life   Personally, I think the lot of you are strange as ...   Oct 29 2014, 7:32 pm
obykya   Hard to chose the top 5 tracks but here it goes. ...   Oct 29 2014, 8:50 pm
obykya   Heres some good info regarding each track: deadpre...   Oct 29 2014, 9:00 pm
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