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post Oct 9 2014, 1:09 pm
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I'm glad they can laugh about it but I'd say the comment makes the guys seem unmotivated. Why wait so long? They were not victims of Ed's musical direction so long as they stayed on board. If they were so unhappy with Ed, they could have split anytime whether they thought Ed was easily replaceable or not.


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post Oct 9 2014, 4:55 pm
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QUOTE(Bremang @ Oct 9 2014, 5:06 pm) *

I'm glad they can laugh about it but I'd say the comment makes the guys seem unmotivated. Why wait so long? They were not victims of Ed's musical direction so long as they stayed on board. If they were so unhappy with Ed, they could have split anytime whether they thought Ed was easily replaceable or not.


Sometimes even those is in abusive relationship can't let go. Who are we to say how these guys felt during those times? Were we in their shoes?

No.

However, after hearing what has been made public from both camps, I firmly believe they were the victims.


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post Oct 9 2014, 6:51 pm
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QUOTE(SinfulEyes @ Oct 9 2014, 5:55 pm) *

Sometimes even those is in abusive relationship can't let go. Who are we to say how these guys felt during those times? Were we in their shoes?

No.

However, after hearing what has been made public from both camps, I firmly believe they were the victims.


I agree. It takes time to realize there is an issue, then time to decide if it's temporary or fixable. Then, if you have complications on top of that, like longstanding relationships and deep bonds, it takes even look longer.


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ThrowgnCpr   Pat "off the record"   Oct 9 2014, 1:09 pm
+AllOverMe+   Haha, that was really off the record Mr Dahlheimer...   Oct 9 2014, 2:28 pm
SinfulEyes   Haha, that was really off the record Mr Dahlheime...   Oct 9 2014, 2:30 pm
Bremang   Haha. Anyone who thinks there is ANY chance tha...   Oct 10 2014, 11:05 am
Bremang   aaaaoooo! what a shot at ed   Oct 9 2014, 2:34 pm
SinfulEyes   aaaaoooo! what a shot at ed Do you blame th...   Oct 9 2014, 2:38 pm
mattyeagles   Do you blame them? they asked ed to come back a...   Oct 9 2014, 3:57 pm
SinfulEyes   I agree. It takes time to realize there is an iss...   Oct 9 2014, 6:53 pm
MightyHet   Absolutely. And even after the relationship has ...   Oct 10 2014, 12:37 pm
mattyeagles   Pretty sad to label this an "abusive" r...   Oct 10 2014, 1:11 pm
SinfulEyes   I know..totally dimishes an actual abusive relati...   Oct 10 2014, 1:15 pm
mattyeagles   Doing that diminishes what the men went through w...   Oct 10 2014, 1:43 pm
+AllOverMe+   I have always respected Ed. really. He has done a ...   Oct 10 2014, 1:49 pm
Bremang   Doing that diminishes what the men went through...   Oct 10 2014, 5:05 pm
Bremang   Sometimes even those is in abusive relationship...   Oct 10 2014, 11:13 am
sellingthdrama   Wow, really pulling back the curtain. So if they ...   Oct 9 2014, 6:47 pm
Bremang   Wow, really pulling back the curtain. So if they...   Oct 9 2014, 9:57 pm
alexou   It's simply an admission that they should have...   Oct 9 2014, 7:09 pm
zmanpga   PD da man, straight shooter!!!! :D   Oct 10 2014, 5:17 am
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+AllOverMe+   Just ignore it people, we all love Live, and some ...   Oct 27 2014, 2:49 pm
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zmanpga   :p :wave:   Oct 18 2014, 6:28 pm
Live4Life   :p :wave: Like dude, you should enter that f...   Oct 18 2014, 7:28 pm
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Lakini's Juice   They should've fucked off to that Chris Sheep ...   Oct 20 2014, 3:58 am
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Bremang   Ed lovers are insufferable. Ed bashers are ju...   Oct 20 2014, 12:33 pm
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WaiterAtCliftons   This place is a shit show anymore.   Oct 20 2014, 2:08 pm
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