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AccessPass Update 30 September, 2014
Pledgers Can Hear LIVE's 'We Open the Door' Early!

Because you have pledged to support LIVE’s upcoming album THE TURN, you now have access to check out our new song ‘We Open the Door’ (including an introduction from Chad Taylor) before others hear it tomorrow! You’ll also receive another notice from us tomorrow where you can instantly download the track. In the meantime, give it a listen and let us know your thoughts in the comments. Thanks for all your support, we’re less than a month from the album release now!


http://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/live/updates/42109


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I love the drums. But that's about it. I know I'm repeating myself. But CS sounds absolutely terrible. And I think it's not even his fault. Why are they using all those vocal effects? He sounds okay in concert..

Also every CT solo sounds the same nowadays.


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post Sep 30 2014, 8:36 pm
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QUOTE(Frasbul @ Sep 30 2014, 5:00 pm) *

I love the drums. But that's about it. I know I'm repeating myself. But CS sounds absolutely terrible. And I think it's not even his fault. Why are they using all those vocal effects? He sounds okay in concert..

Also every CT solo sounds the same nowadays.


Finally, when it comes to Shinn, someone who semi-shares my opinion that he sounds awful! I don't even think he sounds good in concert and I'm not making any excuses for him. I say it is his fault. He is a less than average vocalist with no stage presence. I think all three of the songs are really good lyrically and musically, but leave me wishing to hear what they would sound like from someone with a better set of pipes. I guess I'm the Simon Cowell of this board, the realist, while the majority of you must have your fingers crossed behind your back when you say you like his sound. Additionally, this is childish, but I can't stand looking at him either, so I have to minimize You Tube when I listen to the new material. The size of his nostrils irk me, the haircut irks me, his one outfit that he always wears irks me--even though he has seemed to have torn the sleeves off for a slightly different look). Even though Shinn is subpar, I'll continue to listen to support Chad, Chad & Pat.


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QUOTE(Voodoo Lady @ Sep 30 2014, 9:36 pm) *

Finally, when it comes to Shinn, someone who semi-shares my opinion that he sounds awful! I don't even think he sounds good in concert and I'm not making any excuses for him. I say it is his fault. He is a less than average vocalist with no stage presence. I think all three of the songs are really good lyrically and musically, but leave me wishing to hear what they would sound like from someone with a better set of pipes. I guess I'm the Simon Cowell of this board, the realist, while the majority of you must have your fingers crossed behind your back when you say you like his sound. Additionally, this is childish, but I can't stand looking at him either, so I have to minimize You Tube when I listen to the new material. The size of his nostrils irk me, the haircut irks me, his one outfit that he always wears irks me--even though he has seemed to have torn the sleeves off for a slightly different look). Even though Shinn is subpar, I'll continue to listen to support Chad, Chad & Pat.



I applaud you. Great post. You took the words right out of my mouth. I still say they should have stuck with TGF.

I actually really tried to listen and give it a go being that despite what people think i love and support CCP.
I think some are just afraid to admit because they believe they have this "tightness" with band members and they are grasping so bad so they just claim to love every track.

There is no intangible "thing" there. I mean, let's get serious.
The music is okay but not anything to grab you at all.
You guys are reaching for it but it just isn't there.
I think it's great they kept going and that they are still making music they love but it just isn't there for me.
I just can't get into it.

Also, The shit fans did to some people... All the waiting and court shit and they way all of the clan just came and wrecked this place and good lord, the whole NICK deal. What's sad is Nick is a fan, he is not a troll and never was.

He is the bigger person and always has been. I could go on and on but why bother.....the stuff with my cats that died, my son being harrassed blahhh blahhhh.
All of that tied in and stuff..uhh, just drew me away and not wanting to bother.
I can't be lumped in with people like that. You think fans do not make a difference but in this case they did. And i know i am not the only one thinking this and i know others feel the same way.

I have been a member her now for 8 years and i used to like everyone here. But then "it" happened and blam....things changed, fans changed, i saw the true colors and frankly, it freaked me out.

Sorry for the novel. I usually don't post much. Take it for what it is.

You can disagree all you want but going as far as insulting me and others because you don't like their opinions.. and calling people names..etc.. picking people apart because of opinions or just because you don't like them just plain sucks.
There are going to be people that do not like the music, DEAL with it.

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QUOTE(Live4Life @ Oct 1 2014, 4:13 pm) *

I applaud you. Great post. You took the words right out of my mouth. I still say they should have stuck with TGF.[u]

I actually really tried to listen and give it a go being that despite what people think i love and support CCP.
[b] I think some are just afraid to admit because they believe they have this "tightness" with band members and they are grasping so bad so they just claim to love every track.

There is no intangible "thing" there. I mean, let's get serious.
The music is okay but not anything to grab you at all.




Well said!!! thumbsup.gif
In contrast to be a subscriber to this message board, I've been a reader for quite a few years, and quite frankly, just felt the need to finally come out and say something, in hopes to understand other viewpoints better... and hopefully, stress my concerns to the band directly, of whom I hope is also reading.

It's very weird, but normally I wouldn't care as much if it was some 'other' band. Take for example Stone Temple Pilots or the next band that went through 'singer' changes. I would take it for what it's worth and move on (if so desired) if they changed singers and/or direction, and wouldn't think twice about it. I think in the case of +Live+ (and what makes it so upsetting to me) is the fact that they were considered to be my absolute favorite band. Over the years they seemed to get better and better...then to OK, to just 'ehh'. I didn't know what to expect with TGF, that band just spoke to me! That to me was a NEW direction, without the need to keep plugging into the past and or continuing a certain legacy. As I understood, the guys were ready to 'rock' it out again, based on pent up frustration. So to me, TGF (I felt) brought that energy. Reviving +Live+ (to me) feels like more of a spiritual quest rather than a band that is hungry and wants to get out there and kick some ass again. I do give them credit for trying, because I think they are really trying. Hell, CT is an open book and you can feel his emotion and passion in each word that he speaks to help promote. I feel for him. BUT as another poster had suggested, I don't see this album/cd making a lot of noise. I don't feel it's necessarily because of a new singer, but it's based on the amount of downtime that has occurred, mixed frustrations that have built, and quite simply, where +Live+ is placed in the category of 'rock' music today.




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dangum   We Open The Door   Sep 29 2014, 10:03 pm
RobB   http://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/live/updates/...   Sep 30 2014, 12:09 am
Costakoui   I am sure Nick loves the song already!!...   Sep 30 2014, 6:59 am
SJN1279   I am sure Nick loves the song already!!...   Sep 30 2014, 8:04 am
Costakoui   I don't have pledge music for them, so I...   Sep 30 2014, 8:22 am
SctSamadhi   I don't have pledge music for them, so I...   Sep 30 2014, 6:56 pm
SJN1279   I am sure Nick loves the song already!!...   Sep 30 2014, 9:33 am
Costakoui   Do you like it? Yeah, I liked the acoustic ver...   Sep 30 2014, 10:31 am
feverpusher   Well, I took a listen. Overall, I think the song i...   Sep 30 2014, 9:17 am
ThrowgnCpr   it's up on youtube now. It's alright, I g...   Sep 30 2014, 9:35 am
SJN1279   it's up on youtube now. It's alright, I ...   Sep 30 2014, 9:45 am
Bremang   I just listened, I would not have leaked this t...   Sep 30 2014, 10:15 am
Costakoui   Criticizing the procedure, why? What about your ...   Sep 30 2014, 10:42 am
ThrowgnCpr   I just listened, I would not have leaked this tra...   Sep 30 2014, 10:16 am
Costakoui   While I fully acknowledge that SJN1279 is a troll...   Sep 30 2014, 10:39 am
feverpusher   The Siren's Call is a great song, but We Ope...   Sep 30 2014, 10:49 am
Bremang   First listen, not terrible. Not rocking though.   Sep 30 2014, 10:16 am
ThrowgnCpr   First listen, not terrible. Not rocking though. ...   Sep 30 2014, 10:21 am
alexou   It's hard to understand why people want to rel...   Sep 30 2014, 11:31 am
SinfulEyes   It might not be their best effort but I do like ho...   Sep 30 2014, 1:46 pm
+AllOverMe+   TWAIT? i like it Siren's Call? Love it WOTD? ...   Sep 30 2014, 1:46 pm
sellingthdrama   TWAIT? i like it I'm probably the only one w...   Sep 30 2014, 2:40 pm
SinfulEyes   I'm with you on that. It has that "thin...   Sep 30 2014, 2:58 pm
Bremang   It's back and better than ever sons. that...   Sep 30 2014, 9:17 pm
mattyeagles   That intangible "thing" you are referri...   Oct 1 2014, 8:50 am
SinfulEyes   Live is better than ever? youre delusional Allo...   Oct 1 2014, 9:55 am
mattyeagles   Allow me to clarify and rephrase. I meant better ...   Oct 1 2014, 10:36 am
Costakoui   fair enough...some might not agree with that, but...   Oct 1 2014, 1:21 pm
mattyeagles   Those who do not agree with this they need to fin...   Oct 1 2014, 2:12 pm
SinfulEyes   It's hard to understand why people want to re...   Sep 30 2014, 1:51 pm
sellingthdrama   I like this. The opening and first verse gave me ...   Sep 30 2014, 2:37 pm
alexou   I like this. The opening and first verse gave me...   Sep 30 2014, 3:11 pm
ThrowgnCpr   admittedly, this song is growing on me quite a bit...   Sep 30 2014, 4:34 pm
sellingthdrama   There is no intangible "thing" there....   Oct 1 2014, 3:55 pm
SinfulEyes   I was serious - I felt "the thing". ...   Oct 1 2014, 4:01 pm
Costakoui   I applaud you. Great post. You took the words rig...   Oct 2 2014, 1:45 am
mfitz804   Less thrilled about this one than the previous two...   Sep 30 2014, 6:39 pm
mattdm11   I actually like this song more than TWAT. Nothing...   Sep 30 2014, 9:10 pm
mattdm11   Can we at least all agree that the slow motion sho...   Sep 30 2014, 9:12 pm
Bremang   Can we at least all agree that the slow motion sh...   Sep 30 2014, 9:14 pm
feverpusher   Can we at least all agree that the slow motion sh...   Sep 30 2014, 9:52 pm
fandelive   I can only hope this song is the worst on the albu...   Sep 30 2014, 11:38 pm
PurdueSteve   I'm apparently in the minority but I really re...   Oct 1 2014, 7:39 am
Costakoui   I'm apparently in the minority but I really r...   Oct 1 2014, 1:23 pm
SinfulEyes   When you spot crazy it's best to ignore and no...   Oct 1 2014, 3:32 pm
Live4Life   When you spot crazy it's best to ignore and n...   Oct 1 2014, 3:36 pm
ThrowgnCpr   I mostly hate the internet.   Oct 1 2014, 3:41 pm
SinfulEyes   I mostly hate the internet. Why is that?   Oct 1 2014, 3:55 pm
Bremang   I could see Kevin Martin doing vocals on Siren...   Oct 1 2014, 6:25 pm
Voodoo Lady   I could see Kevin Martin doing vocals on Siren...   Oct 1 2014, 7:01 pm
Voodoo Lady   Live4life: Thank you for the applause. I commend y...   Oct 1 2014, 6:52 pm
Hoodstock   I have to say that the guitars, bass and drums def...   Oct 1 2014, 7:11 pm
feverpusher   I'd say listen to it for what it is and enjo...   Oct 1 2014, 9:17 pm
PhoenixDecay   I think some people put too much importance into a...   Oct 2 2014, 5:25 am
WaiterAtCliftons   I think some people put too much importance into ...   Oct 2 2014, 7:52 am
PhoenixDecay   You can look at it two ways I think. Be pissed ab...   Oct 2 2014, 8:55 am
SinfulEyes   This isn't going to a PC post and will come ac...   Oct 2 2014, 9:10 am
SinfulEyes   Here is a message for those who cannot get over th...   Oct 2 2014, 9:43 am
Costakoui   Here is a message for those who cannot get over t...   Oct 2 2014, 1:18 pm
alexou   Very well said! Sometimes they sound like we ...   Oct 2 2014, 1:20 pm
Bremang   Very well said! Sometimes they sound like ...   Oct 2 2014, 2:19 pm
SinfulEyes   Interesting hypothetical. If Ed left right after ...   Oct 2 2014, 2:23 pm
Voodoo Lady   Here is a message for those who cannot get over t...   Oct 2 2014, 10:58 pm
Costakoui   I appreciate this too...Except for Ed having an e...   Oct 3 2014, 2:31 am
Bremang   Ed left Live in 2001, that's a looooong ti...   Oct 3 2014, 12:19 pm
Costakoui   Oh stop. My fav Live show was in 2003, and I...   Oct 3 2014, 1:39 pm
PhoenixDecay   I appreciate this too...Except for Ed having an e...   Oct 3 2014, 4:37 am
feverpusher   This isn't going to a PC post and will come a...   Oct 2 2014, 1:26 pm
Voodoo Lady   This isn't going to a PC post and will come a...   Oct 2 2014, 10:33 pm
Frasbul   Actually from what I've heard so far, I think ...   Oct 2 2014, 8:00 pm
Costakoui   Actually from what I've heard so far, I think...   Oct 3 2014, 2:30 am
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