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The album is now available in some European markets.

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I have been trying to listen to this cd objectively. Which is not easy considering some of Ed's douchebaggery of late (the "I'll turn my cheek after I break yours" comment on facebook was really awful, in particular). Anyway, besides the fact that Parasite is a really pathetically badly written song that I have to skip after one listen (unlike the rest of the cd which I have been listening to straight through), I haven't been lyric listening. I've been listening in the car (which has a sweet system) and on longish rides so I can hear the whole thing. Just listening without lyric listening, and my overall impression is:

Ed has mastered non-verbal vocals. (whistles, la la la's, la de da's, woooo's, ooooooohs, etc...)

I will listen through sometime next week and consider lyrics (besides Parasite, which, having heard once I never need to hear again because I wrote a similar angry letter to an x-friend in middle school and it brings back bad memories of awful poetry). Because I am a Christian, and I look forward to possibly some decent lyrics (I have been noticing some things, of course, and haven't been terribly turned off, but haven't been focusing on lyrics).

Anyway, overall, this is Ed's best work thus far. That said, the overuse of non-verbal vocals confirms in me the stated opinion of many around here that Ed takes his presence too seriously in the music. He oooohhhhs and aaaaahhhhss over the music. In other words (actually, word): EGO.

and too much of it.

that's what I've got so far. Ed as an arrogant solo musician.
man, I wish I wasn't just being cynical.

But I did say this sounds like his best solo work so far... tongue.gif (and I think it is, genuinely)


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post Oct 1 2013, 10:00 pm
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QUOTE(dancing queen @ Oct 1 2013, 5:00 pm) *
I have been trying to listen to this cd objectively. Which is not easy considering some of Ed's douchebaggery of late (the "I'll turn my cheek after I break yours" comment on facebook was really awful, in particular). Anyway, besides the fact that Parasite is a really pathetically badly written song that I have to skip after one listen (unlike the rest of the cd which I have been listening to straight through), I haven't been lyric listening. I've been listening in the car (which has a sweet system) and on longish rides so I can hear the whole thing. Just listening without lyric listening, and my overall impression is:

Ed has mastered non-verbal vocals. (whistles, la la la's, la de da's, woooo's, ooooooohs, etc...)

I will listen through sometime next week and consider lyrics (besides Parasite, which, having heard once I never need to hear again because I wrote a similar angry letter to an x-friend in middle school and it brings back bad memories of awful poetry). Because I am a Christian, and I look forward to possibly some decent lyrics (I have been noticing some things, of course, and haven't been terribly turned off, but haven't been focusing on lyrics).

Anyway, overall, this is Ed's best work thus far. That said, the overuse of non-verbal vocals confirms in me the stated opinion of many around here that Ed takes his presence too seriously in the music. He oooohhhhs and aaaaahhhhss over the music. In other words (actually, word): EGO.

and too much of it.

that's what I've got so far. Ed as an arrogant solo musician.
man, I wish I wasn't just being cynical.

But I did say this sounds like his best solo work so far... tongue.gif (and I think it is, genuinely)


First Live song on the first album, MJ, track - Pain Lies on the Riverside, enter Ed.....Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

his ooo's and ahh's are nothing new, that ego argument is biased and silly. So any singer who makes non verbal vocals has an ego? That's just about every singer in history i guess.

What was Ed's comment about; "I'll turn my cheek after I break yours"?

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QUOTE(Bremang @ Oct 1 2013, 11:00 pm) *

First Live song on the first album, MJ, track - Pain Lies on the Riverside, enter Ed.....Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

his ooo's and ahh's are nothing new, that ego argument is biased and silly. So any singer who makes non verbal vocals has an ego? That's just about every singer in history i guess.

What was Ed's comment about; "I'll turn my cheek after I break yours"?


The opening to PLOTR's non-verbals served a purpose, it was meant as a sort of tribal chant. Forgot what Ed called it, but he addressed it in an interview long long ago. Can't remember where. La da da da da, does not serve the same purpose nor does the amount of non-verbals contained within MJ come close to the non-verbals in TFATM

As for his comment, don't know where he said it or in what context, but it doesn't sound very Christian. Sounds to be exactly the opposite of one of the biggest Christian talking points of forgiveness.


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The opening to PLOTR's non-verbals served a purpose, it was meant as a sort of tribal chant.


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dangum   The Flood and The Mercy - reviews   Sep 5 2013, 8:51 pm
Bremang   After first listen to the album, I'd say it...   Sep 7 2013, 6:05 am
PurdueSteve   I'm downloading it now. Found it in a torrent....   Sep 7 2013, 9:22 am
Bremang   You can definitely hear Mike's good influence...   Sep 7 2013, 3:52 pm
Badman   I listened to the single and the 30 second clips f...   Sep 7 2013, 1:18 pm
Bremang   Cornerstone is a Bob Marley song..... You gotta he...   Sep 7 2013, 3:18 pm
Crossed   Here's my song by song review: The One - 7/10...   Sep 7 2013, 7:29 pm
PurdueSteve   I've listened to it a bit. I'm not going t...   Sep 9 2013, 7:37 am
mattyeagles   Here's my song by song review: The One - 7/1...   Sep 13 2013, 12:53 pm
Rush Of Blood   The best songs of The Flood & The Mercy are be...   Sep 9 2013, 1:53 pm
Hoodstock   I'd have to say I think The Flood and The Merc...   Sep 14 2013, 6:14 pm
Soxwsc   I think The Flood and the Mercy is a huge improvem...   Sep 14 2013, 8:25 pm
Live4Life   I like every song on it so far. Only one i'm a...   Sep 15 2013, 1:37 pm
figure8   Don't know where to start - bad album. 30 seco...   Sep 16 2013, 8:16 am
Bingy   It's been a long time since I last posted some...   Sep 16 2013, 4:40 pm
Liveman94   It's been a long time since I last posted som...   Sep 16 2013, 9:26 pm
sellingthdrama   I admit I only listened to the 30-second Amazon cl...   Sep 16 2013, 7:51 pm
SinfulEyes   Thank GOD the falsetto is gone. Thank GOD. If t...   Sep 16 2013, 9:35 pm
Bremang   after listening to it a bunch i like every track o...   Sep 16 2013, 10:36 pm
mfitz804   Just got my copy today. I have to say, I am really...   Sep 19 2013, 3:24 pm
Live4Life   Just got my copy today. I have to say, I am reall...   Sep 19 2013, 6:41 pm
mfitz804   I think it's magnificent. The photographer ca...   Sep 20 2013, 12:08 pm
mattyeagles   Yeah, or its yet another water reference. ha ye...   Sep 20 2013, 12:45 pm
Bremang   I still think the cover art is questionable. Bet...   Sep 20 2013, 1:08 am
Live4Life   I'm thinking next album he should poop in the...   Sep 20 2013, 11:28 am
Live4Life   I like the cover. His water refences are never lam...   Sep 20 2013, 3:19 pm
mfitz804   I like the cover. His water refences are never la...   Sep 20 2013, 3:56 pm
Live4Life   Yeah but Ed has a LOT of water references. We...   Sep 20 2013, 4:46 pm
Hoodstock   I can understand how some may like the album more ...   Sep 21 2013, 3:13 pm
Bremang   I can understand how some may like the album more...   Sep 21 2013, 3:23 pm
Hoodstock   I don't think he is capable of writing songs ...   Sep 21 2013, 7:40 pm
Bremang   I'd even say that the last 3 tracks of TFAT...   Sep 22 2013, 5:36 pm
Live4Life   There is no way anyone can listen to it from sta...   Sep 21 2013, 7:47 pm
mfitz804   Why oh why do yo people insist on trying to tell ...   Sep 22 2013, 7:10 am
Arizona_Skies   Why oh why do yo people insist on trying to tell ...   Sep 23 2013, 4:43 pm
Live4Life   I think he meant there's no way a LIVE fan co...   Sep 23 2013, 5:33 pm
Arizona_Skies   Oh, you don't need to tell me what he meant d...   Sep 23 2013, 10:10 pm
Bremang   How do you know I'm a dude, you giant douch...   Sep 23 2013, 10:37 pm
Arizona_Skies   Just an assumption based on your male symbol on a...   Sep 23 2013, 10:57 pm
Bremang   Oh, you believed my made-up internet profile? :...   Sep 24 2013, 1:41 am
Bremang   I think he meant there's no way a LIVE fan ...   Sep 23 2013, 6:05 pm
Arizona_Skies   It's not rock. Live fans can only like rock? ...   Sep 23 2013, 10:15 pm
Bremang   Hmmm... there it is on iTunes filed under the g...   Sep 23 2013, 10:35 pm
Arizona_Skies   iTunes is wrong Amazon, youtube, new album rele...   Sep 23 2013, 10:54 pm
Bremang   Amazon, youtube, new album releases.com... gues...   Sep 24 2013, 1:40 am
Hoodstock   Why oh why do yo people insist on trying to tell ...   Sep 24 2013, 6:59 pm
Live4Life   Thanks. lol. It just drives me nuts when people ...   Sep 22 2013, 2:23 pm
mfitz804   Thanks. lol. It just drives me nuts when people...   Sep 22 2013, 3:19 pm
Live4Life   Now THAT i def AGREE to. :D   Sep 22 2013, 3:44 pm
Soxwsc   I think Hoodstock's in the minority here. Eve...   Sep 22 2013, 6:12 pm
Crossed   I think Hoodstock's in the minority here. Ev...   Sep 23 2013, 4:16 pm
Live4Life   hahaha oh my god this is great! Bremang, you ...   Sep 24 2013, 10:40 am
andymbj   I've listened to the album a half dozen times ...   Sep 24 2013, 12:18 pm
Bremang   I particularly dislike Holy Water Tears. It sou...   Sep 24 2013, 7:01 pm
Bremang   Highlights on the album for me are: Seven, Para...   Sep 24 2013, 7:07 pm
Live4Life   Hood, I am not taking anything personally. I am no...   Sep 24 2013, 8:11 pm
Hoodstock   Hood, I am not taking anything personally. I am n...   Sep 25 2013, 6:44 pm
Bremang   You got a big mouth, little heart, talk loud, thin...   Sep 25 2013, 7:51 pm
Hoodstock   You got a big mouth, little heart, talk loud, thi...   Sep 26 2013, 4:44 pm
Live4Life   :D Crap, still can't rep you again yet bre......   Sep 26 2013, 12:43 pm
mfitz804   \ So any singer who makes non verbal vocals ...   Oct 2 2013, 6:04 am
Bremang   Most lead singers probably do have a huge ego. ...   Oct 2 2013, 2:47 pm
mattyeagles   The opening to PLOTR's non-verbals served a p...   Oct 2 2013, 8:40 am
themaestro   He sings everything these days (including old Live...   Oct 2 2013, 9:23 am
PurdueSteve   oh please :D It's ed that said, it's th...   Oct 2 2013, 6:01 pm
Bremang   It's ed that said, it's the tone of the...   Oct 2 2013, 10:07 pm
PurdueSteve   the whole argument is ridiculous. You're supp...   Oct 2 2013, 11:05 pm
Liveman94   The one "Down in the river we were dyin...   Oct 2 2013, 1:45 pm
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Crossed   I got my TfaTM CD last Friday so I've listene...   Oct 2 2013, 5:33 pm
Liveman94   "Seven" Allow me to preface the followi...   Oct 2 2013, 10:42 pm
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