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The album is now available in some European markets.

Please use this thread to post your review of the album.


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post Sep 24 2013, 8:11 pm
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Hood, I am not taking anything personally. I am not "trying"to tell you anything.

I do not think it stinks.
And yes, i do think Ed has improved.
You're saying you don't see how anyone can say that? Why can't i say it?
It's my opinion. People can and will say it because they CAN.
We just have dif opinions. Nothing more. Get a grip dude.
I lump you in because you are part of the WD clan and most of you are like broken records.
Same thing over and over and over... lol.gif

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post Sep 25 2013, 6:44 pm
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QUOTE(Live4Life @ Sep 24 2013, 9:11 pm) *

Hood, I am not taking anything personally. I am not "trying"to tell you anything.

Seriously? I'd say your previous words say otherwise.
QUOTE(Live4Life @ Sep 21 2013, 8:47 pm) *

Why oh why do yo people insist on trying to tell us what we will or won't like?

QUOTE(Live4Life @ Sep 21 2013, 8:47 pm) *

Serously, shut the fuck up already.

QUOTE(Live4Life @ Sep 21 2013, 8:47 pm) *

See? Jeeshhhh, stop telling people what they will or will not like. aggressive.gif


Anyways, it's not like I'm blindly coming on here to rip Ed. I actually provided specific reasons for my opinion and they are directly comparing Ed's previous work to his current album (not anything related to Live):

QUOTE(Hoodstock @ Sep 21 2013, 8:40 pm) *

IMO Alive has songs more songs that are listenable:

The Great Beyond
Grace
Stand
Zion
Just In Time
A New World

Vs.

The One
Seven
Parasite
All That I Wanted


According to me that's a 6 to 4 ratio of good songs. On top of that, if I ranked those ten songs from best to worse there would not be a single Flood song that cracked the top 5.

In addition to that I'd also add that out of the 5 non-remix songs on The Garden 4 of the songs (excluding I'm The Proof) are also better than anything on his new album.

So yes, to me it's a huge disappointment.

No, IMO I don't see how anyone could disagree.

Getting into the album, there are actually a lot of catchy riffs and tunes. Yes, it is great that Ed has gone away from the falsetto.

Unfortunately sound can only carry a song so far. As he did on bad songs on Alive, and also with I'm The Proof, Ed just completely ruins songs with uninspired lyrical garbage.

On top of the genuinely bad lyrics he also repeatedly goes back to the same wells that he's been fishing out of for decades with more references to the common standby's like Water, Children, and "The One".

The combination of the horrible, uninspired lyrics added to the next regurgitation of his old cliche's are the biggest disappointment to me.

Looking at the lead track "The One". This reminds me of Zion (although not quite as good). Ed had this fascination with throwing Zion into later songs until he finally just wrote a song with it as the title. It's the same as The One. For those that don't remember "The One" is referred to in songs like Top, They Stood Up For Love, and Every Time I See Your Face. This is actually one of the better songs on the album, but he could have done way better by doing something original.

Examining lyrics - Actually taking just the second verse of one of the good songs, Parasite, as an example of how bad this is.

QUOTE(Live4Life @ Sep 13 2013, 8:27 pm) *

[b]PARASITE

************
Big Mouth
Little heart
Talk so loud, think you're smart
You're just a bag of guts
And nothin' but
The door is shut
This wall ain't comin' down.....
************


Everyone can see what Ed is doing here. I would assume this song would have had some passion, emotion, and thought behind it. This song is years in the making with decades of history behind it.

Referring to the Parasite as a "bag of guts and nothin" - c'mon. Seriously - Where is the inspiration?? With what's behind that song that is seriously the best lyrical assault that he could come up with. "Bag of guts" - Whoooo - Ed is pissed!

Someone in a middle school band could be more creative.

This is evident throughout any song on this album, whether it be a listenable song or not.

If anyone wants to disagree with specific examples on how I rank songs from this album against Alive and The Garden, or why you think it is better than them, please feel free. I'd love to hear your thoughts.


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dangum   The Flood and The Mercy - reviews   Sep 5 2013, 8:51 pm
Bremang   After first listen to the album, I'd say it...   Sep 7 2013, 6:05 am
PurdueSteve   I'm downloading it now. Found it in a torrent....   Sep 7 2013, 9:22 am
Bremang   You can definitely hear Mike's good influence...   Sep 7 2013, 3:52 pm
Badman   I listened to the single and the 30 second clips f...   Sep 7 2013, 1:18 pm
Bremang   Cornerstone is a Bob Marley song..... You gotta he...   Sep 7 2013, 3:18 pm
Crossed   Here's my song by song review: The One - 7/10...   Sep 7 2013, 7:29 pm
PurdueSteve   I've listened to it a bit. I'm not going t...   Sep 9 2013, 7:37 am
mattyeagles   Here's my song by song review: The One - 7/1...   Sep 13 2013, 12:53 pm
Rush Of Blood   The best songs of The Flood & The Mercy are be...   Sep 9 2013, 1:53 pm
Hoodstock   I'd have to say I think The Flood and The Merc...   Sep 14 2013, 6:14 pm
Soxwsc   I think The Flood and the Mercy is a huge improvem...   Sep 14 2013, 8:25 pm
Live4Life   I like every song on it so far. Only one i'm a...   Sep 15 2013, 1:37 pm
figure8   Don't know where to start - bad album. 30 seco...   Sep 16 2013, 8:16 am
Bingy   It's been a long time since I last posted some...   Sep 16 2013, 4:40 pm
Liveman94   It's been a long time since I last posted som...   Sep 16 2013, 9:26 pm
sellingthdrama   I admit I only listened to the 30-second Amazon cl...   Sep 16 2013, 7:51 pm
SinfulEyes   Thank GOD the falsetto is gone. Thank GOD. If t...   Sep 16 2013, 9:35 pm
Bremang   after listening to it a bunch i like every track o...   Sep 16 2013, 10:36 pm
mfitz804   Just got my copy today. I have to say, I am really...   Sep 19 2013, 3:24 pm
Live4Life   Just got my copy today. I have to say, I am reall...   Sep 19 2013, 6:41 pm
mfitz804   I think it's magnificent. The photographer ca...   Sep 20 2013, 12:08 pm
mattyeagles   Yeah, or its yet another water reference. ha ye...   Sep 20 2013, 12:45 pm
Bremang   I still think the cover art is questionable. Bet...   Sep 20 2013, 1:08 am
Live4Life   I'm thinking next album he should poop in the...   Sep 20 2013, 11:28 am
Live4Life   I like the cover. His water refences are never lam...   Sep 20 2013, 3:19 pm
mfitz804   I like the cover. His water refences are never la...   Sep 20 2013, 3:56 pm
Live4Life   Yeah but Ed has a LOT of water references. We...   Sep 20 2013, 4:46 pm
Hoodstock   I can understand how some may like the album more ...   Sep 21 2013, 3:13 pm
Bremang   I can understand how some may like the album more...   Sep 21 2013, 3:23 pm
Hoodstock   I don't think he is capable of writing songs ...   Sep 21 2013, 7:40 pm
Bremang   I'd even say that the last 3 tracks of TFAT...   Sep 22 2013, 5:36 pm
Live4Life   There is no way anyone can listen to it from sta...   Sep 21 2013, 7:47 pm
mfitz804   Why oh why do yo people insist on trying to tell ...   Sep 22 2013, 7:10 am
Arizona_Skies   Why oh why do yo people insist on trying to tell ...   Sep 23 2013, 4:43 pm
Live4Life   I think he meant there's no way a LIVE fan co...   Sep 23 2013, 5:33 pm
Arizona_Skies   Oh, you don't need to tell me what he meant d...   Sep 23 2013, 10:10 pm
Bremang   How do you know I'm a dude, you giant douch...   Sep 23 2013, 10:37 pm
Arizona_Skies   Just an assumption based on your male symbol on a...   Sep 23 2013, 10:57 pm
Bremang   Oh, you believed my made-up internet profile? :...   Sep 24 2013, 1:41 am
Bremang   I think he meant there's no way a LIVE fan ...   Sep 23 2013, 6:05 pm
Arizona_Skies   It's not rock. Live fans can only like rock? ...   Sep 23 2013, 10:15 pm
Bremang   Hmmm... there it is on iTunes filed under the g...   Sep 23 2013, 10:35 pm
Arizona_Skies   iTunes is wrong Amazon, youtube, new album rele...   Sep 23 2013, 10:54 pm
Bremang   Amazon, youtube, new album releases.com... gues...   Sep 24 2013, 1:40 am
Hoodstock   Why oh why do yo people insist on trying to tell ...   Sep 24 2013, 6:59 pm
Live4Life   Thanks. lol. It just drives me nuts when people ...   Sep 22 2013, 2:23 pm
mfitz804   Thanks. lol. It just drives me nuts when people...   Sep 22 2013, 3:19 pm
Live4Life   Now THAT i def AGREE to. :D   Sep 22 2013, 3:44 pm
Soxwsc   I think Hoodstock's in the minority here. Eve...   Sep 22 2013, 6:12 pm
Crossed   I think Hoodstock's in the minority here. Ev...   Sep 23 2013, 4:16 pm
Live4Life   hahaha oh my god this is great! Bremang, you ...   Sep 24 2013, 10:40 am
andymbj   I've listened to the album a half dozen times ...   Sep 24 2013, 12:18 pm
Bremang   I particularly dislike Holy Water Tears. It sou...   Sep 24 2013, 7:01 pm
Bremang   Highlights on the album for me are: Seven, Para...   Sep 24 2013, 7:07 pm
Bremang   You got a big mouth, little heart, talk loud, thin...   Sep 25 2013, 7:51 pm
Hoodstock   You got a big mouth, little heart, talk loud, thi...   Sep 26 2013, 4:44 pm
Live4Life   :D Crap, still can't rep you again yet bre......   Sep 26 2013, 12:43 pm
dancing queen   I have been trying to listen to this cd objectivel...   Oct 1 2013, 4:00 pm
Bremang   I have been trying to listen to this cd objective...   Oct 1 2013, 10:00 pm
mfitz804   \ So any singer who makes non verbal vocals ...   Oct 2 2013, 6:04 am
Bremang   Most lead singers probably do have a huge ego. ...   Oct 2 2013, 2:47 pm
PurdueSteve   First Live song on the first album, MJ, track - P...   Oct 2 2013, 7:34 am
mattyeagles   The opening to PLOTR's non-verbals served a p...   Oct 2 2013, 8:40 am
themaestro   He sings everything these days (including old Live...   Oct 2 2013, 9:23 am
Bremang   The opening to PLOTR's non-verbals served a...   Oct 2 2013, 2:50 pm
PurdueSteve   oh please :D It's ed that said, it's th...   Oct 2 2013, 6:01 pm
Bremang   It's ed that said, it's the tone of the...   Oct 2 2013, 10:07 pm
PurdueSteve   the whole argument is ridiculous. You're supp...   Oct 2 2013, 11:05 pm
Liveman94   The one "Down in the river we were dyin...   Oct 2 2013, 1:45 pm
Liveman94   I got my TfaTM CD last Friday so I've listened...   Oct 2 2013, 1:49 pm
Crossed   I got my TfaTM CD last Friday so I've listene...   Oct 2 2013, 5:33 pm
Liveman94   "Seven" Allow me to preface the followi...   Oct 2 2013, 10:42 pm
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