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Beardan
post Apr 20 2013, 10:22 am
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I dont know all the details of Live's break up. I have seen and read a few different things over the last year or two. Although the details for me are not totally clear, I cant help but feel these four blokes have let people like you and I down.

I also think the time has come for things to change. For things to become clearer and for the four original Live members to stop the nonsense.

This is what i understand to have happened. I could be wrong and i may not know details. So this is from my perspective from what i know.

*Ed said he quit Live to refresh and put new energy into his music.
* There were reports Ed wanted more money cause he was the lead singer before they split at one particular concert.
* Ed went solo, TGF released an album. Chads and Pat suid or are still suing Ed over something childish.
* Chris Shinn is now Ed. They may be called Live but he is singing Ed's lyrics. That just seems wrong to me.

I could be wrong but i think these blokes owe us more. Ive seen Live/Ed 12 times. I own all their albums. I dont expect anything more than the simple truth on what happened to my favourite band. I dont think that has ever been said. If it has then I havent heard it.

It looks like they will go their separate ways from here. Which happens. Friends from school now not being friends isnt a first in life, and wont be a last. But the foolish suing each other thing is embarrassing.

I dont know if it sounds weird but you feel that following this band you are part of the community that makes up its support. You show them a loyalty through your support and I dont think its too much to ask for some back. Right now I think the band has shown little loyalty to their fans.


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Bremang
post Apr 21 2013, 4:37 pm
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thanks maestro....

It seems like CCP have solid claims.....I wonder what the heck Ed's camp was thinking. Do you think Ed would have done all of these things without having the green light from his lawyer first?

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post Apr 21 2013, 4:58 pm
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QUOTE(Bremang @ Apr 21 2013, 4:37 pm) *

thanks maestro....

It seems like CCP have solid claims.....I wonder what the heck Ed's camp was thinking. Do you think Ed would have done all of these things without having the green light from his lawyer first?


Great question. I really don't know. Seems all he had to do was use former as he is doing now. There remains that whole period of time when he wasn't and I think he will be held accountable for that.


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post Apr 21 2013, 5:10 pm
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QUOTE(themaestro @ Apr 21 2013, 5:58 pm) *

Great question. I really don't know. Seems all he had to do was use former as he is doing now. There remains that whole period of time when he wasn't and I think he will be held accountable for that.


I could understand bringing Ed to court to change billing, but the 2 million dollar figure is beyond any level of ridiculous. How they feel they are entitled to anything close to that figure is insanity.


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post Apr 21 2013, 5:21 pm
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I could understand bringing Ed to court to change billing, but the 2 million dollar figure is beyond any level of ridiculous. How they feel they are entitled to anything close to that figure is insanity.


Everything will be audited during discovery i presume.


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Everything will be audited during discovery i presume.

Unless they storm out again....


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Unless they storm out again....


It tends to happen when you are dealing with an egomaniac who thinks he can do no wrong.


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QUOTE(SinfulEyes @ Apr 21 2013, 7:14 pm) *

It tends to happen when you are dealing with an egomaniac who thinks he can do no wrong.


None of us were in there and know the exact details. All we know is that CCP stormed out because the tweeted it for some reason.


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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Apr 22 2013, 9:17 am) *

None of us were in there and know the exact details. All we know is that CCP stormed out because the tweeted it for some reason.


So you admit that none of us were in there and don't know the exact details, then you follow this up with an "exact detail" that they "stormed" out... You were there were you? You saw them leave in a fury? "Storming" out is quite the particular description, how do you KNOW this if you weren't there to know the exact details like you say? Why could they have not calmly said "ok this is clearly not working, see you later" and calmly left?

This is the shit you pull all the time, you say no one knows the exact details when it's Ed in hot water, then when it's CCP you suddenly seem very happy to know the "exact details". You have absolutely zero credibility.

Good of you to ignore the actual points made here again. For someone who has called for people to "just move on" for the last few days you sure can't follow your own advice! Notice that the Ed hate on this site has significantly dropped since a bunch of people stopped posting full time here, you used to say that all you were doing was counter acting that.. Now all you're doing is everything you can to shit on anything Live does. Dude, you don't like what's happening, we get it, move on.


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Beardan   Live have shown little loyalty to their fans   Apr 20 2013, 10:22 am
SJN1279   I dont know all the details of Live's break u...   Apr 20 2013, 12:11 pm
Bremang   Not all of the claims are petty. If I recall, th...   Apr 20 2013, 1:14 pm
SJN1279   Not all of the claims are petty. If I recall, t...   Apr 20 2013, 1:28 pm
zmanpga   I know nothing about the first claim, but the las...   Apr 21 2013, 4:36 am
Badman   But then a new complaint was about how Ed was us...   Apr 21 2013, 1:58 am
SJN1279   CC&P might not win big on the bootleg thing...   Apr 21 2013, 7:07 am
themaestro   How can they prove damages for that? When Ed was...   Apr 21 2013, 9:45 am
SJN1279   The lawsuit makes CCP look petty and is utterly ri...   Apr 21 2013, 10:13 am
SJN1279   Exhibit A(item still being sold in Live's offi...   Apr 21 2013, 10:19 am
themaestro   Exhibit A(item still being sold in Live's off...   Apr 21 2013, 10:42 am
SJN1279   So should they stop selling all their recordings ...   Apr 21 2013, 10:50 am
SinfulEyes   All recordings have a copyright date. That t-shi...   Apr 21 2013, 10:55 am
themaestro   All recordings have a copyright date. That t-shi...   Apr 21 2013, 11:05 am
SinfulEyes   Now you're confusing copyrights with trademar...   Apr 21 2013, 11:18 am
themaestro   Gym teacher. Don't forget it. Anyone can ed...   Apr 21 2013, 11:40 am
themaestro   The lawsuit makes CCP look petty and is utterly r...   Apr 21 2013, 10:31 am
themaestro   I dont know all the details of Live's break u...   Apr 20 2013, 1:32 pm
SJN1279   In order to be loyal to the fans they have to be ...   Apr 20 2013, 3:04 pm
themaestro   I think it is time for the feud to end and we all...   Apr 20 2013, 3:46 pm
SinfulEyes   So move on then. :D politicians. No wonder the...   Apr 20 2013, 4:25 pm
zmanpga   I think it is time for the feud to end and we all...   Apr 21 2013, 4:37 am
zmanpga   you must have been hibernating cause your facts st...   Apr 21 2013, 4:19 am
Bremang   you must have been hibernating cause your facts s...   Apr 21 2013, 5:25 am
Bremang   I haven't heard a legal argument from anyone y...   Apr 21 2013, 1:32 pm
themaestro   I haven't heard a legal argument from anyone ...   Apr 21 2013, 1:59 pm
mfitz804   Not only did Ed violate the trademark for the name...   Apr 21 2013, 2:17 pm
themaestro   Not only did Ed violate the trademark for the nam...   Apr 21 2013, 2:31 pm
Bremang   Not only did Ed violate the trademark for the nam...   Apr 21 2013, 4:33 pm
Bremang   He can sell his performance all day long, but he ...   Apr 21 2013, 4:50 pm
SinfulEyes   Stop using big words and facts. It's going way...   Apr 21 2013, 3:28 pm
Hoodstock   Windy day today.   Apr 21 2013, 4:09 pm
themaestro   In HEC Enterprises, Ltd. vs. Deep Purple, Inc., [6...   Apr 21 2013, 4:25 pm
themaestro   How the Band Protects Its Brand: The Use of Tradem...   Apr 21 2013, 4:32 pm
SinfulEyes   None of us were in there and know the exact detai...   Apr 21 2013, 6:41 pm
Bremang   I've heard from a reliable source that Ed...   Apr 21 2013, 6:51 pm
Bremang   Unless they storm out again.... I don't th...   Apr 21 2013, 7:01 pm
Hoodstock   I could understand bringing Ed to court to change...   Apr 21 2013, 6:21 pm
Bremang   Great question. I really don't know. Seems ...   Apr 21 2013, 5:19 pm
Beardan   I started this thread to try and get change. For t...   Apr 21 2013, 10:34 pm
themaestro   I started this thread to try and get change. For ...   Apr 21 2013, 10:52 pm
Beardan   To be honest themaestro I couldnt care less what i...   Apr 22 2013, 4:31 am
Pokey   To be honest themaestro I couldnt care less what ...   Apr 22 2013, 4:57 am
themaestro   To be honest themaestro I couldnt care less what ...   Apr 22 2013, 5:47 am
zmanpga   ya, let us know how you make out contacting ED   Apr 22 2013, 6:17 am
themaestro   UXoNE14U_zM   Apr 22 2013, 1:25 pm


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