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Beardan
post Apr 20 2013, 10:22 am
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I dont know all the details of Live's break up. I have seen and read a few different things over the last year or two. Although the details for me are not totally clear, I cant help but feel these four blokes have let people like you and I down.

I also think the time has come for things to change. For things to become clearer and for the four original Live members to stop the nonsense.

This is what i understand to have happened. I could be wrong and i may not know details. So this is from my perspective from what i know.

*Ed said he quit Live to refresh and put new energy into his music.
* There were reports Ed wanted more money cause he was the lead singer before they split at one particular concert.
* Ed went solo, TGF released an album. Chads and Pat suid or are still suing Ed over something childish.
* Chris Shinn is now Ed. They may be called Live but he is singing Ed's lyrics. That just seems wrong to me.

I could be wrong but i think these blokes owe us more. Ive seen Live/Ed 12 times. I own all their albums. I dont expect anything more than the simple truth on what happened to my favourite band. I dont think that has ever been said. If it has then I havent heard it.

It looks like they will go their separate ways from here. Which happens. Friends from school now not being friends isnt a first in life, and wont be a last. But the foolish suing each other thing is embarrassing.

I dont know if it sounds weird but you feel that following this band you are part of the community that makes up its support. You show them a loyalty through your support and I dont think its too much to ask for some back. Right now I think the band has shown little loyalty to their fans.


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In HEC Enterprises, Ltd. vs. Deep Purple, Inc., [6] the management company for the rock group Deep Purple brought suit to enjoin a former member of the band from using the names DEEP PURPLE and NEW DEEP PURPLE in connection with live musical performances. Notwithstanding the fact that the “original” Deep Purple had ceased performing several years prior to the former member’s resurrection of the name, the court found that the mark DEEP PURPLE was still in use given that the group’s recordings remained in distribution. Having established that the original group’s management owned valid rights in the name, the court enjoined the defendants from making further use of the names DEEP PURPLE and NEW DEEP PURPLE, and awarded damages and attorneys fees to the plaintiffs.

In Brother Records, Inc. vs. Jardine, [7] a corporation (BRI) formed by members of the Beach Boys and which owned the rights to the THE BEACH BOYS trademark sued Beach Boy Al Jardine to stop him from using the following names: Al Jardine of the Beach Boys and Family & Friends; The Beach Boys “Family and Friends”; Beach Boys Family & Friends; The Beach Boys, Family & Friends; Beach Boys and Family; as well as, simply, The Beach Boys. This case provides an example of a situation where a band used an agreement to create a corporation, the corporation owned and licensed the rights in the band’s name, and the corporation was able to stop an unlicensed band member from using the band’s name.

Most notably, the Brother Records court addressed the issue of nominative fair use, which Jardine raised as a defense. This doctrine allows a defendant to use a plaintiff’s trademark to refer back to the plaintiff’s goods and services in situations where (1) the product or service at issue is not readily recognizable without use of the trademark; (2) only so much of the trademark is used as is reasonably necessary to identify the product or service; and (3) the user does nothing that would, in conjunction with the mark, suggest sponsorship or endorsement by the trademark holder. [8] The court held that Jardine’s use of his former band’s name infringed BRI’s trademark because Jardine’s use indicated that the Beach Boys sponsored or endorsed his concerts. For example, some of Jardine’s promotional materials displayed “The Beach Boys” more prominently than “Family and Friends,” and Jardine’s management testified that they recommended using the THE BEACH BOYS name to create or enhance the value of the concert tour. Finally, the fact that some promoters and concertgoers were actually confused – they could not differentiate between a Jardine concert and Beach Boy Mike Love’s nearby, licensed “The Beach Boys” concert – worked strongly against Jardine’s case.


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Beardan   Live have shown little loyalty to their fans   Apr 20 2013, 10:22 am
SJN1279   I dont know all the details of Live's break u...   Apr 20 2013, 12:11 pm
Bremang   Not all of the claims are petty. If I recall, th...   Apr 20 2013, 1:14 pm
SJN1279   Not all of the claims are petty. If I recall, t...   Apr 20 2013, 1:28 pm
zmanpga   I know nothing about the first claim, but the las...   Apr 21 2013, 4:36 am
Badman   But then a new complaint was about how Ed was us...   Apr 21 2013, 1:58 am
SJN1279   CC&P might not win big on the bootleg thing...   Apr 21 2013, 7:07 am
themaestro   How can they prove damages for that? When Ed was...   Apr 21 2013, 9:45 am
SJN1279   The lawsuit makes CCP look petty and is utterly ri...   Apr 21 2013, 10:13 am
SJN1279   Exhibit A(item still being sold in Live's offi...   Apr 21 2013, 10:19 am
themaestro   Exhibit A(item still being sold in Live's off...   Apr 21 2013, 10:42 am
SJN1279   So should they stop selling all their recordings ...   Apr 21 2013, 10:50 am
SinfulEyes   All recordings have a copyright date. That t-shi...   Apr 21 2013, 10:55 am
themaestro   All recordings have a copyright date. That t-shi...   Apr 21 2013, 11:05 am
SinfulEyes   Now you're confusing copyrights with trademar...   Apr 21 2013, 11:18 am
themaestro   Gym teacher. Don't forget it. Anyone can ed...   Apr 21 2013, 11:40 am
themaestro   The lawsuit makes CCP look petty and is utterly r...   Apr 21 2013, 10:31 am
themaestro   I dont know all the details of Live's break u...   Apr 20 2013, 1:32 pm
SJN1279   In order to be loyal to the fans they have to be ...   Apr 20 2013, 3:04 pm
themaestro   I think it is time for the feud to end and we all...   Apr 20 2013, 3:46 pm
SinfulEyes   So move on then. :D politicians. No wonder the...   Apr 20 2013, 4:25 pm
zmanpga   I think it is time for the feud to end and we all...   Apr 21 2013, 4:37 am
zmanpga   you must have been hibernating cause your facts st...   Apr 21 2013, 4:19 am
Bremang   you must have been hibernating cause your facts s...   Apr 21 2013, 5:25 am
Bremang   I haven't heard a legal argument from anyone y...   Apr 21 2013, 1:32 pm
themaestro   I haven't heard a legal argument from anyone ...   Apr 21 2013, 1:59 pm
mfitz804   Not only did Ed violate the trademark for the name...   Apr 21 2013, 2:17 pm
themaestro   Not only did Ed violate the trademark for the nam...   Apr 21 2013, 2:31 pm
Bremang   Not only did Ed violate the trademark for the nam...   Apr 21 2013, 4:33 pm
Bremang   He can sell his performance all day long, but he ...   Apr 21 2013, 4:50 pm
SinfulEyes   Stop using big words and facts. It's going way...   Apr 21 2013, 3:28 pm
Hoodstock   Windy day today.   Apr 21 2013, 4:09 pm
themaestro   How the Band Protects Its Brand: The Use of Tradem...   Apr 21 2013, 4:32 pm
Bremang   thanks maestro.... It seems like CCP have solid c...   Apr 21 2013, 4:37 pm
themaestro   thanks maestro.... It seems like CCP have solid ...   Apr 21 2013, 4:58 pm
SJN1279   Great question. I really don't know. Seems al...   Apr 21 2013, 5:10 pm
Bremang   I could understand bringing Ed to court to chan...   Apr 21 2013, 5:21 pm
SJN1279   Everything will be audited during discovery i pre...   Apr 21 2013, 5:51 pm
SinfulEyes   Unless they storm out again.... It tends to hap...   Apr 21 2013, 6:14 pm
SJN1279   It tends to happen when you are dealing with an e...   Apr 21 2013, 6:17 pm
SinfulEyes   None of us were in there and know the exact detai...   Apr 21 2013, 6:41 pm
Bremang   I've heard from a reliable source that Ed...   Apr 21 2013, 6:51 pm
Pokey   None of us were in there and know the exact detai...   Apr 22 2013, 4:55 am
Bremang   Unless they storm out again.... I don't th...   Apr 21 2013, 7:01 pm
Hoodstock   I could understand bringing Ed to court to change...   Apr 21 2013, 6:21 pm
Bremang   Great question. I really don't know. Seems ...   Apr 21 2013, 5:19 pm
Beardan   I started this thread to try and get change. For t...   Apr 21 2013, 10:34 pm
themaestro   I started this thread to try and get change. For ...   Apr 21 2013, 10:52 pm
Beardan   To be honest themaestro I couldnt care less what i...   Apr 22 2013, 4:31 am
Pokey   To be honest themaestro I couldnt care less what ...   Apr 22 2013, 4:57 am
themaestro   To be honest themaestro I couldnt care less what ...   Apr 22 2013, 5:47 am
zmanpga   ya, let us know how you make out contacting ED   Apr 22 2013, 6:17 am
themaestro   UXoNE14U_zM   Apr 22 2013, 1:25 pm


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