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Beardan
post Apr 20 2013, 10:22 am
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I dont know all the details of Live's break up. I have seen and read a few different things over the last year or two. Although the details for me are not totally clear, I cant help but feel these four blokes have let people like you and I down.

I also think the time has come for things to change. For things to become clearer and for the four original Live members to stop the nonsense.

This is what i understand to have happened. I could be wrong and i may not know details. So this is from my perspective from what i know.

*Ed said he quit Live to refresh and put new energy into his music.
* There were reports Ed wanted more money cause he was the lead singer before they split at one particular concert.
* Ed went solo, TGF released an album. Chads and Pat suid or are still suing Ed over something childish.
* Chris Shinn is now Ed. They may be called Live but he is singing Ed's lyrics. That just seems wrong to me.

I could be wrong but i think these blokes owe us more. Ive seen Live/Ed 12 times. I own all their albums. I dont expect anything more than the simple truth on what happened to my favourite band. I dont think that has ever been said. If it has then I havent heard it.

It looks like they will go their separate ways from here. Which happens. Friends from school now not being friends isnt a first in life, and wont be a last. But the foolish suing each other thing is embarrassing.

I dont know if it sounds weird but you feel that following this band you are part of the community that makes up its support. You show them a loyalty through your support and I dont think its too much to ask for some back. Right now I think the band has shown little loyalty to their fans.


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post Apr 20 2013, 1:32 pm
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QUOTE(Beardan @ Apr 20 2013, 10:22 am) *

I dont know all the details of Live's break up. I have seen and read a few different things over the last year or two. Although the details for me are not totally clear, I cant help but feel these four blokes have let people like you and I down.

I also think the time has come for things to change. For things to become clearer and for the four original Live members to stop the nonsense.

This is what i understand to have happened. I could be wrong and i may not know details. So this is from my perspective from what i know.

*Ed said he quit Live to refresh and put new energy into his music.
* There were reports Ed wanted more money cause he was the lead singer before they split at one particular concert.
* Ed went solo, TGF released an album. Chads and Pat suid or are still suing Ed over something childish.
* Chris Shinn is now Ed. They may be called Live but he is singing Ed's lyrics. That just seems wrong to me.

I could be wrong but i think these blokes owe us more. Ive seen Live/Ed 12 times. I own all their albums. I dont expect anything more than the simple truth on what happened to my favourite band. I dont think that has ever been said. If it has then I havent heard it.

It looks like they will go their separate ways from here. Which happens. Friends from school now not being friends isnt a first in life, and wont be a last. But the foolish suing each other thing is embarrassing.

I dont know if it sounds weird but you feel that following this band you are part of the community that makes up its support. You show them a loyalty through your support and I dont think its too much to ask for some back. Right now I think the band has shown little loyalty to their fans.


In order to be loyal to the fans they have to be loyal to themselves first. That's exactly what they are doing now. If anything, they probably stayed together too long. If they had really stood up for what they believed in perhaps they would have split sooner or at least taken a break. You can't fault them for that though as they did what they thought was right at the time. Right now it seems evident they are doing what they should and the fans should accept that. Like it or not, it's right for them. If you don't like the music too bad. Make your own music then. No band makes music based on what the fans want. They make what they want. That's why fans like them in the first place.


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QUOTE(themaestro @ Apr 20 2013, 2:32 pm) *

In order to be loyal to the fans they have to be loyal to themselves first. That's exactly what they are doing now. If anything, they probably stayed together too long. If they had really stood up for what they believed in perhaps they would have split sooner or at least taken a break. You can't fault them for that though as they did what they thought was right at the time. Right now it seems evident they are doing what they should and the fans should accept that. Like it or not, it's right for them. If you don't like the music too bad. Make your own music then. No band makes music based on what the fans want. They make what they want. That's why fans like them in the first place.


I think it is time for the feud to end and we all move on.


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I think it is time for the feud to end and we all move on.


So move on then.


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So move on then.


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Beardan   Live have shown little loyalty to their fans   Apr 20 2013, 10:22 am
SJN1279   I dont know all the details of Live's break u...   Apr 20 2013, 12:11 pm
Bremang   Not all of the claims are petty. If I recall, th...   Apr 20 2013, 1:14 pm
SJN1279   Not all of the claims are petty. If I recall, t...   Apr 20 2013, 1:28 pm
zmanpga   I know nothing about the first claim, but the las...   Apr 21 2013, 4:36 am
Badman   But then a new complaint was about how Ed was us...   Apr 21 2013, 1:58 am
SJN1279   CC&P might not win big on the bootleg thing...   Apr 21 2013, 7:07 am
themaestro   How can they prove damages for that? When Ed was...   Apr 21 2013, 9:45 am
SJN1279   The lawsuit makes CCP look petty and is utterly ri...   Apr 21 2013, 10:13 am
SJN1279   Exhibit A(item still being sold in Live's offi...   Apr 21 2013, 10:19 am
themaestro   Exhibit A(item still being sold in Live's off...   Apr 21 2013, 10:42 am
SJN1279   So should they stop selling all their recordings ...   Apr 21 2013, 10:50 am
SinfulEyes   All recordings have a copyright date. That t-shi...   Apr 21 2013, 10:55 am
themaestro   All recordings have a copyright date. That t-shi...   Apr 21 2013, 11:05 am
SinfulEyes   Now you're confusing copyrights with trademar...   Apr 21 2013, 11:18 am
themaestro   Gym teacher. Don't forget it. Anyone can ed...   Apr 21 2013, 11:40 am
themaestro   The lawsuit makes CCP look petty and is utterly r...   Apr 21 2013, 10:31 am
zmanpga   I think it is time for the feud to end and we all...   Apr 21 2013, 4:37 am
zmanpga   you must have been hibernating cause your facts st...   Apr 21 2013, 4:19 am
Bremang   you must have been hibernating cause your facts s...   Apr 21 2013, 5:25 am
Bremang   I haven't heard a legal argument from anyone y...   Apr 21 2013, 1:32 pm
themaestro   I haven't heard a legal argument from anyone ...   Apr 21 2013, 1:59 pm
mfitz804   Not only did Ed violate the trademark for the name...   Apr 21 2013, 2:17 pm
themaestro   Not only did Ed violate the trademark for the nam...   Apr 21 2013, 2:31 pm
Bremang   Not only did Ed violate the trademark for the nam...   Apr 21 2013, 4:33 pm
Bremang   He can sell his performance all day long, but he ...   Apr 21 2013, 4:50 pm
SinfulEyes   Stop using big words and facts. It's going way...   Apr 21 2013, 3:28 pm
Hoodstock   Windy day today.   Apr 21 2013, 4:09 pm
themaestro   In HEC Enterprises, Ltd. vs. Deep Purple, Inc., [6...   Apr 21 2013, 4:25 pm
themaestro   How the Band Protects Its Brand: The Use of Tradem...   Apr 21 2013, 4:32 pm
Bremang   thanks maestro.... It seems like CCP have solid c...   Apr 21 2013, 4:37 pm
themaestro   thanks maestro.... It seems like CCP have solid ...   Apr 21 2013, 4:58 pm
SJN1279   Great question. I really don't know. Seems al...   Apr 21 2013, 5:10 pm
Bremang   I could understand bringing Ed to court to chan...   Apr 21 2013, 5:21 pm
SJN1279   Everything will be audited during discovery i pre...   Apr 21 2013, 5:51 pm
SinfulEyes   Unless they storm out again.... It tends to hap...   Apr 21 2013, 6:14 pm
SJN1279   It tends to happen when you are dealing with an e...   Apr 21 2013, 6:17 pm
SinfulEyes   None of us were in there and know the exact detai...   Apr 21 2013, 6:41 pm
Bremang   I've heard from a reliable source that Ed...   Apr 21 2013, 6:51 pm
Pokey   None of us were in there and know the exact detai...   Apr 22 2013, 4:55 am
Bremang   Unless they storm out again.... I don't th...   Apr 21 2013, 7:01 pm
Hoodstock   I could understand bringing Ed to court to change...   Apr 21 2013, 6:21 pm
Bremang   Great question. I really don't know. Seems ...   Apr 21 2013, 5:19 pm
Beardan   I started this thread to try and get change. For t...   Apr 21 2013, 10:34 pm
themaestro   I started this thread to try and get change. For ...   Apr 21 2013, 10:52 pm
Beardan   To be honest themaestro I couldnt care less what i...   Apr 22 2013, 4:31 am
Pokey   To be honest themaestro I couldnt care less what ...   Apr 22 2013, 4:57 am
themaestro   To be honest themaestro I couldnt care less what ...   Apr 22 2013, 5:47 am
zmanpga   ya, let us know how you make out contacting ED   Apr 22 2013, 6:17 am
themaestro   UXoNE14U_zM   Apr 22 2013, 1:25 pm


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