Is Ed too Cliché? Options

[Jim]

The TOPIC clearly is that Ed's music is terrible.

Why did it happen? How did a man they was once able to write amazing lyrics become the pathetic cliche that he is today? Was it the pressures of fame? The pressure of maintaining a certain lifestyle that he had become accustomed to? Maybe it just wasn't fun for him anymore, but he had no other career options?

What does everyone think?

[Bremang]

The TOPIC clearly is that Ed's music is terrible.

Why did it happen? How did a man they was once able to write amazing lyrics become the pathetic cliche that he is today? Was it the pressures of fame? The pressure of maintaining a certain lifestyle that he had become accustomed to? Maybe it just wasn't fun for him anymore, but he had no other career options?

What does everyone think?

I think after all the success, he just became happier and got old. His voice just can't shred like when he was younger. Once that happened, everything had to change to accommodate his vocal capability and feelings, softer songs. It was an issue of inspiration and vocal strength. I'm sure if he had the ability to be super vital and visionary, he would have kept it up. He put out great stuff in the studio recordings and of course all the unscripted crazy shit he did on stage...that run lasted for a long time. Can't hate that much in the end.

This post has been edited by Bremang: Mar 20 2013, 12:00 am

[figure8]

I think after all the success, he just became happier and got old. His voice just can't shred like when he was younger. Once that happened, everything had to change to accommodate his vocal capability and feelings, softer songs. It was an issue of inspiration and vocal strength. I'm sure if he had the ability to be super vital and visionary, he would have kept it up. He put out great stuff in the studio recordings and of course all the unscripted crazy shit he did on stage...that run lasted for a long time. Can't hate that much in the end.

I don't agree with the statement about the vocals - even with the software vocals you can still record good albums which are not cliche, but this is not the case when it comes to Ed. There is just no more originality left.

[KarmaIsAB]

I don't agree with the statement about the vocals - even with the software vocals you can still record good albums which are not cliche, but this is not the case when it comes to Ed. There is just no more originality left.

I don't understand how someone who originally had so much passion, as evident in his earlier CD's, can let themselves be so morally corrupt. His music lacks originality, because it was fake to begin with. It is so clear to me that starting around BOP, his music revolves mostly around a certain famous (foreign) recording artist that Live once did a duet with.. look at the back and forth in CD lyrics (seriously), but evidently was cut off (concept video for Heaven, anyone? Yin, yang junk). SFBM has to do with someone who posted in the spirituality section on the FOL board. Since that, I've not been bothering to keep track, as I feel it is rather painful to have been such a fan and realize what a huge douche Ed is, and then can only imagine how those who are actually close to him must feel. I really feel like time was wasted, his music is a sham, and now I can't reconcile even liking all the earlier material because it's all such a joke. I hope commercial christianity is helping the pocketbook, Ed! sell-out

[SinfulEyes]

I don't understand how someone who originally had so much passion, as evident in his earlier CD's, can let themselves be so morally corrupt. His music lacks originality, because it was fake to begin with. It is so clear to me that starting around BOP, his music revolves mostly around a certain famous (foreign) recording artist that Live once did a duet with.. look at the back and forth in CD lyrics (seriously), but evidently was cut off (concept video for Heaven, anyone? Yin, yang junk). SFBM has to do with someone who posted in the spirituality section on the FOL board. Since that, I've not been bothering to keep track, as I feel it is rather painful to have been such a fan and realize what a huge douche Ed is, and then can only imagine how those who are actually close to him must feel. I really feel like time was wasted, his music is a sham, and now I can't reconcile even liking all the earlier material because it's all such a joke. I hope commercial christianity is helping the pocketbook, Ed! sell-out

Ed has been too cliche since 2001. Why else do you think he has a small fraction of the fans he once had?

[Redrock]

Ed has been too cliche since 2001. Why else do you think he has a small fraction of the fans he once had?

Having seen LIVE numerous times since '92 it was a downer to see them after 2000. Although the last time in '06 I was impressed despite Ed's LaLaLa's.

Question: What drugs was Ed using? He was whacked in '02

[SinfulEyes]

Having seen LIVE numerous times since '92 it was a downer to see them after 2000. Although the last time in '06 I was impressed despite Ed's LaLaLa's.

Question: What drugs was Ed using? He was whacked in '02

Maybe the drugs is what changed him.

Once Ed sang that crappie wannabe poprock Live was over in the eyes of real fans.