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post Dec 4 2012, 5:49 pm
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A good friend of mine asked me today, who is well aware that I am a fan of the past, present, and future Live, to sum up Ed Kowalcyzk in 5 words or less. What I could muster up on the spot was, "once great artist, became sell-out".

Whether you have positive or negative feelings towards Ed, I pose the same question to you. How would you describe Ed Kowalcyzk in 5 words or less?


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post Dec 5 2012, 8:11 am
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People don't know real Ed


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post Dec 5 2012, 10:32 am
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QUOTE(OutToDry @ Dec 5 2012, 8:11 am) *

People don't know real Ed


I got to spend a little time back stage before and after shows over a period of a few years before the 2009 hiatus and I saw some examples of Ed's interaction with the band and the crew, and the band and the crew's interaction with each other. I some some examples of Ed being a not so nice friendly guy. I also had a few examples of Ed being not so nice to me personally. I don't claim to know Ed, but to the extent that I can be a judge of character based on limited public interaction, and what has been alleged by his former band members, friends and some business associates, and what is alleged in legal actions filed in real courts of law (which must have a legitimate factual and legal basis upon which to state a claim), I suspect that he is not as nice as he tends to portray to fans as a marketing image. Anyone who is still a big fan of Ed just can't or won't see it.

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post Dec 5 2012, 10:42 am
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QUOTE(FishOutaWater @ Dec 5 2012, 10:32 am) *

I got to spend a little time back stage before and after shows over a period of a few years before the 2009 hiatus and I saw some examples of Ed's interaction with the band and the crew, and the band and the crew's interaction with each other. I some some examples of Ed being a not so nice friendly guy. I also had a few examples of Ed being not so nice to me personally. I don't claim to know Ed, but to the extent that I can be a judge of character based on limited public interaction, and what has been alleged by his former band members, friends and some business associates, and what is alleged in legal actions filed in real courts of law (which must have a legitimate factual and legal basis upon which to state a claim), I suspect that he is not as nice as he tends to portray to fans as a marketing image. Anyone who is still a big fan of Ed just can't or won't see it.


Absolutely agree with you. Fans like Nick should have went with their gut and first impression of Ed. Nick saw him for what he was and he was initially correct about him. Ed has perfected the art of making fans feel like his friends for his own benefit. Makes him an even worse person to use weak minded people for his personal gain.

That being said, how about "manipulating jerk takes advantage of saps"?


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post Dec 5 2012, 10:49 am
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QUOTE(SinfulEyes @ Dec 5 2012, 11:42 am) *

Absolutely agree with you. Fans like Nick should have went with their gut and first impression of Ed. Nick saw him for what he was and he was initially correct about him. Ed has perfected the art of making fans feel like his friends for his own benefit. Makes him an even worse person to use weak minded people for his personal gain.

That being said, how about "manipulating jerk takes advantage of saps"?


Makes use of useful idiots.


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SinfulEyes   Edward Kowalcyzk   Dec 4 2012, 5:49 pm
Merica   Previously world class. Now shit.   Dec 4 2012, 5:52 pm
Hobbsy   A good friend of mine asked me today, who is well...   Dec 4 2012, 5:54 pm
FishOutaWater   Inspiring artist turned jaded businessman   Dec 4 2012, 6:05 pm
OutToDry   Magical Wizard Now Backstabbing Theif   Dec 4 2012, 6:25 pm
World Dreamer   Loser.   Dec 4 2012, 7:14 pm
Hobbsy   Loser. Shouldn't that be Loser, Loser, Lose...   Dec 4 2012, 7:20 pm
Merica   Five words or less. Brevity is king - why waste en...   Dec 4 2012, 7:35 pm
Hobbsy   Five words or less. Brevity is king - why waste e...   Dec 4 2012, 7:42 pm
SinfulEyes   This is great guys. I was starting to think I was ...   Dec 4 2012, 8:37 pm
apesce1   lost.   Dec 4 2012, 8:39 pm
World Dreamer   lost. Good one.   Dec 4 2012, 8:46 pm
Wambangalang   Former lead singer of Live   Dec 4 2012, 9:42 pm
jayda   Former lead singer of Live gone to shit.   Dec 4 2012, 10:46 pm
PurdueSteve   Former lead singer of Live ^^^ The Winner ^^^   Dec 5 2012, 1:57 pm
SinfulEyes   ^^^ The Winner ^^^ I agree. I think his 5 wor...   Dec 5 2012, 2:14 pm
SinfulEyes   Where did my reply points go?   Dec 4 2012, 9:57 pm
Hobbsy   Ran to the water   Dec 4 2012, 11:06 pm
Hoodstock   Not what he once was   Dec 4 2012, 11:53 pm
Badman   Another good rockstar finds jesus.   Dec 5 2012, 12:40 am
Aitkens   Shills shit for a living.   Dec 5 2012, 12:52 am
makemedream   Inquisitive youth , delusional adult.   Dec 5 2012, 5:12 am
Hobbsy   Hey Nick - what's yours?   Dec 5 2012, 5:23 am
Merica   Hey Nick - what's yours? I think we could t...   Dec 5 2012, 5:31 am
+Ed+   Hey Nick - what's yours? 5 words! Well d...   Dec 5 2012, 5:50 am
Hobbsy   5 words! Well done! =) No - four. I was...   Dec 5 2012, 6:06 am
Beardan   Decent person, harshly judged   Dec 5 2012, 6:40 am
Hobbsy   Decent person, harshly judged See what Dec 14 b...   Dec 5 2012, 6:45 am
jayda   Decent person, harshly judged Still has gullibl...   Dec 5 2012, 7:50 am
OutToDry   People don't know real Ed   Dec 5 2012, 8:11 am
Pokey   I got to spend a little time back stage before an...   Dec 5 2012, 10:51 am
alexou   PLEASE fans, PLEASE call me! (as a reference...   Dec 5 2012, 9:13 am
SinfulEyes   Great ones so far. Self-serving egomaniac steals...   Dec 5 2012, 10:25 am
Pokey   I thought I'd try a 5//5 version Youthful cre...   Dec 5 2012, 10:27 am
SinfulEyes   I thought I'd try a 5//5 version Youthful cr...   Dec 5 2012, 10:31 am
World Dreamer   Speaking of five word phrases...anyone heard any n...   Dec 5 2012, 2:20 pm
Beardan   You're forgiven Jayda. I couldnt be unhappy wi...   Dec 5 2012, 6:51 pm
SinfulEyes   You're forgiven Jayda. I couldnt be unhappy w...   Dec 5 2012, 6:57 pm
OutToDry   You're forgiven Jayda. I couldnt be unhappy w...   Dec 5 2012, 7:02 pm
jayda   You're forgiven Jayda. I couldnt be unhappy w...   Dec 5 2012, 7:33 pm
jayda   Alot of you guys are down on Ed for a few (maybe...   Dec 5 2012, 7:34 pm


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