The Songwriting of Live Options

[SJN1279]

In Ed's head, he is talking about how he has changed from rock and roll excess to finding god/family. Many of us here twist it into him singing about how he has changed to become a guy who backstabs his friends CC&P. This is probably the clearest way I can explain it here for someone who is new to the board

CCP had no problem taking 75 percent song writing credit and money for songs that Ed basically wrote 100 percent himself. I think that is a pretty crummy thing to do to a friend.

[Hobbsy]

I just can't fathom how the FUCK you guys have been able to carry this on all day...I mean dont you people have jobs? I was up to page 10 on my lunch break and just finished the thread now while im making dinner and polishing off a bottle of cheap nasty white, but seriously, i enjoy this shiot. the only thing i'll add is this;

When movie stars get paid $30 million for a 3 month shoot, obviously they arent getting paid for the work they contributed (the crew or worker bees are the first and last people on set and do all the work and get paid award wages) but obviously a project gets a green light based on the bankability of the stars and in that sense they do "deserve" that paycheck. Tom Hanks said himself that obviously no one is worth that much money, but if he doesnt accept it it will just go to rupert murdoch and he doesnt want that to happen obviously.

Also a director, like spielberg, will draw the multiplex hordes based on his name alone, and for this reason he is paid well and given creative control. One of my favourite american film directors of all time, William Friedkin was one such director. back in the 70's He made the French Connection which took out the best picture oscar, then made The Exorcist which made history. His name meant everything. Then in '78 he made a film called Sorcerer, a truly magnificent gritty, ADULT film noir thriller representitive of that decade (which is why the 70's is my golden age of American cinema), but guess what, it came out the same week as Star Wars. Didnt stand a chance and the 'blockbuster' became the new format for hollywood. Friedkin went on to make flop after flop after flop, with a few bright spots in between (To Live and Die in LA, Jade, Bug, Killer Joe) but do you think the trailers for any of these films say "William Friedkin presents..." no. They ALL and i mean ALL say "From William Friedkin...the director of The Exorcist"!! A film he made 40 years ago.

Point; ed may or may not have been the creative driving force behind it all, but guess what? He still needed people to go out with him and play all the parts in concert he may or may not have written. They are there making all his art look and sound good. And if it was Ed's name that drew hundreds and thousands of people to the concerts then he DID and DOES deserve 99.9% of all the money.

But guess what again. CLEARLY it is not his name that draws or drew people, (as evidenced by his recent solo work), it is the name LIVE. Therefore LIVE deserves all the money. And that means 25%

Yet another good point based on fact not bullshit. Nice work Wam