The Songwriting of Live Options

[SJN1279]

In Ed's head, he is talking about how he has changed from rock and roll excess to finding god/family. Many of us here twist it into him singing about how he has changed to become a guy who backstabs his friends CC&P. This is probably the clearest way I can explain it here for someone who is new to the board

CCP had no problem taking 75 percent song writing credit and money for songs that Ed basically wrote 100 percent himself. I think that is a pretty crummy thing to do to a friend.

[FishOutaWater]

So if Live was an entity for the four of them, how do you feel about them moving on with a new singer? Do you think their new album will outsell SFBM? The Gracious Few with Kevin Martin replacing Ed sold about the same as Alive in the US and didn't fare well at all overseas.

Touring wise, Live was always the four of them(and I would include Adam as a huge part of the band in that respect). Writing wise, Ed was the main force and deserved a bigger share of the pie than he received.

I knew that you were gong to pick that one paragraph out and challenge it. I knew it when I wrote it.

CCCP is now Live. My point is that "Live" is the brand and has the fan base. I don't doubt that all things being equal, Live will liely lose fans and will not sell as well because it does not have its original line-up. But based on the increase in music quality they might pick up a few too. And if a song gets released as a single from the band "Live" it will enjoy the built in goodwill fo the brand.

One thing that TGF did that Ed did not do is they did not exploit there live roots and the Live brand in their promotion and concerts. Sure, it was in the bio of the band. But they did not lead with that to milk the value out fo the Live brand like Ed is trying to do. Kevin didn't replace Ed. TGF was a different sound and a different brand and they did not exploit the Live email distribution list or fan base.

I bet the next Live album will outsell Alive and TGF combined, and if it is a really good album and gets some attention and they properly support it with touring and promotion, it might very well outsell SFBM.