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post Nov 27 2012, 11:49 am
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QUOTE(Beardan @ Nov 26 2012, 3:28 pm) *

Far too harsh Pokey. The songs are all listenable and the garden is excellent. I dont understand the line 'sometimes people change and im the proof' given ed has been preaching about love and the rest since tdth. however the song might be about other things??


In Ed's head, he is talking about how he has changed from rock and roll excess to finding god/family. Many of us here twist it into him singing about how he has changed to become a guy who backstabs his friends CC&P. This is probably the clearest way I can explain it here for someone who is new to the board smile.gif


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post Nov 27 2012, 12:20 pm
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QUOTE(Badman @ Nov 27 2012, 11:49 am) *

In Ed's head, he is talking about how he has changed from rock and roll excess to finding god/family. Many of us here twist it into him singing about how he has changed to become a guy who backstabs his friends CC&P. This is probably the clearest way I can explain it here for someone who is new to the board smile.gif


CCP had no problem taking 75 percent song writing credit and money for songs that Ed basically wrote 100 percent himself. I think that is a pretty crummy thing to do to a friend.


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post Nov 27 2012, 1:03 pm
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Nov 27 2012, 12:20 pm) *

CCP had no problem taking 75 percent song writing credit and money for songs that Ed basically wrote 100 percent himself. I think that is a pretty crummy thing to do to a friend.


Right. How dare they each take the 25% that was agreed and in the contract from the very beginning. It's like they were founding members of Live or something... Fucking crummy bastards!


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post Nov 27 2012, 1:34 pm
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QUOTE(possum @ Nov 27 2012, 1:03 pm) *

Right. How dare they each take the 25% that was agreed and in the contract from the very beginning. It's like they were founding members of Live or something... Fucking crummy bastards!



It is crummy to get paid for something you don't participate in. They let Ed do the majority of the work throughout the band's run, and they took the majority of the compensation.

Then they sue when Ed creates a new contract that entitles him to 100 percent of the songwriting credit(which he deserved).


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Then they sue when Ed illegally creates a new contract that entitles him to 100 percent of the songwriting credit(which he deserved).


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QUOTE(possum @ Nov 27 2012, 1:52 pm) *

fixed.


LIVE's contract ended with Awake. Do you feel it was fair for Chad T Chad G and Pat to have 25 percent songwriting royalties on songs that they didn't write?

A new contract where Ed would get all the credit and royalties for the music he created solo seems fair to me.


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post Nov 27 2012, 5:40 pm
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LIVE's contract ended with Awake. Do you feel it was fair for Chad T Chad G and Pat to have 25 percent songwriting royalties on songs that they didn't write?

A new contract where Ed would get all the credit and royalties for the music he created solo seems fair to me.
He demanded the change, got 70%. The proceeded to setup secret contract withLevin to take all monies. Ed's power play is about over.....welcome to the lounge act!!!


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QUOTE(OutToDry @ Nov 27 2012, 5:40 pm) *

He demanded the change, got 70%. The proceeded to setup secret contract withLevin to take all monies. Ed's power play is about over.....welcome to the lounge act!!!


Did CCP write 30 percent of SFBM?


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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Nov 27 2012, 5:52 pm) *

Did CCP write 30 percent of SFBM?


There would have been no SFBM on a Sony label without CCP dummy. SFBM sales and touring was based on the foundation of LIVE and what 4 guys built together. Ed would have never gotten to sell a seventh album to Millions of Live fans without the foundation all 4 of them built. It should have been 4 ways even for life because without the 4 of them, there would not be millions of Live fans. How is it that you cannot see that?!?!

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QUOTE(FishOutaWater @ Nov 27 2012, 5:58 pm) *

There would have been no SFBM on a Sony label without CCP dummy. SFBM sales and touring was based on the foundation of LIVE and what 4 guys built together. Ed would have never gotten to sell a seventh album to Millions of Live fans without the foundation all 4 of them built. It should have been 4 ways even for life because without the 4 of them, there would not be millions of Live fans. How is it that you cannot see that?!?!


That still doesn't mean they should have gotten 30 percent of the songwriting royalties for songs that they didn't write.


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