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post Nov 16 2012, 1:55 pm
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Time to honor my favorite trolls on here and start a new thread about their favorite person Ed.

Today's little factoid - Ed and the 100k lead singer bonus.

Did it really come to this? You're damn right it did. Now it could be argued that it was a "mischaracterization" and in fact Ed did argue with that exact basis in the interview conducted in this YouTube video series:

Hi - I'm Ed and I'm uncomfortable with this line of questioning

Sure, the request might have been mischaracterized as Ed argues, but could it also be true that the request was based simply out of greed or even a love for money? Yes, one wonders..

Feel free to discuss..
-Jimmy


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post Nov 16 2012, 2:51 pm
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haha yeah "to put it bluntly" and then doesn't put it bluntly cos he's too bust trying to come up with some spin, so he has to restart and say it again to give it another shot. I understand that he was taken off guard by the questioning, and it's clear the interviewer really wanted to push him (notice the camera zoom in the second the interview goes to ask the hard questions), but Ed's answer(s) just were poles apart and were a mess.

If it was totally fine for Ed to ask for a 100k lead singer bonus for his solo project, then I assume he would have been fine with PD asking for a 150k lead bass player bonus to build a rental property to have tenants move in and pay him rent ... both endeavors make the individual more money, both may have been in the pipe line where extra money is needed, both have nothing to do with the other 3 members in the band .. the amount of money is irrelevant, its the fact they want it.

oh yeah and "move on" and focus on the solo stuff, I'm sure it was meant in the context of the interview, he wants to appear like he's moving on, but like we see, clinging to Live any way he can to help himself stay relevant, even SJN had to admit to asking venues to change the billing so people knew who he was. This isn't a man focused on forging his own identity and own career, its a man doing what he can to make a buck.

Considering the fact we have never seen an interview like this since, I bet anything that Ed has people grill interviewers first to make sure these subjects are off limits.


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post Nov 16 2012, 3:32 pm
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QUOTE(Pokey @ Nov 16 2012, 2:51 pm) *

he wants to appear like he's moving on, but like we see, clinging to Live any way he can to help himself stay relevant


And this is the fundamental basis for why the shows are marketed and promoted the way they are. Clinging to Live is about as accurate as it gets. You can see that in all the shows discussed in the thread on Deceptive Marketing practices.

This is the same Ed that says on one hand, he's moving on from that chapter of Live and onto his solo career but then tells newspapers he's open for and working for what fans want - a Live reunion. That is a joke. You have to ask yourself what is the reason for a reunion? Is it because it makes sense or is it money driven? Smart fans will know the answer to that.

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This isn't a man focused on forging his own identity and own career, its a man doing what he can to make a buck.


Definitely true and he certainly wouldn't be trying to work for a Live reunion. Clearly evident by the way he feels it's necessary to bill himself as if he's still in the band Live.. or worse - the fact that he is Live. Horrible really and shows no integrity to trying to forge his own identity as you say and make a truly successful solo career.

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Considering the fact we have never seen an interview like this since, I bet anything that Ed has people grill interviewers first to make sure these subjects are off limits.


I would love to submit interview questions to Ed:

"Ed, why do you think so many people who used to be close to you are no longer close and are upset with you?"
"Why are a lot of your old friends no longer your friends? What happened to cause all that? What did you do if anything?"
"When you were in Live how did you treat some of the crew who worked hard for you, or tour managers, or even friends who helped in small ways? Did you treat them with respect? What was that relationship like? Do you think some of them liked being treated that way?"
"Not including your old bandmates, How did you treat your lifelong friends? Your childhood friends? Did you ever have a talk with any of them about their feelings? How did they feel about it? Did they like the way you treated them?"
"How did you treat your old band mates? Was their mutual respect for "those individuals"? What happened there? Why are you guys no longer friends? Do you still talk to them? Why is that?"
"Is it true that you showed remorse for your actions recently? Have you shown remorse? Did you convey this? Did you reach out? What happened?"
"Do you think some of the alienation was your fault? And in what way? What'd you do to create that? Anything?"
"Is it really you against the whole world. Could it possibly be that they're ALL wrong? All of them? What is their relationship like win you these days? Do you have one with them?"
"Why are people saying you stabbed your friends in the back? What do they mean by that? What do think is making them say these things? What do they mean by backstabbing?"
"Did you have demands of your band mates that seemed unreasonable? Did you deliver and were there ultimatums? What happened? What'd you say? Why are they no longer friends? Did you do/say hurtful things? Did you make threats about stuff? Help us understand!"
"When is the next song about water?"

-Jimmy


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Lerxst   Will the Real EK please stand up.   Nov 16 2012, 1:55 pm
Kymra   Is this Jimmy as in THE Jimmy? The one who introdu...   Nov 16 2012, 2:20 pm
Lerxst   If so..... :wave: So sad the way things went d...   Nov 16 2012, 2:28 pm
Pokey   Ah the old classic interview. I just love how his ...   Nov 16 2012, 2:27 pm
Lerxst   Basically from what I can gather is that the 100k...   Nov 16 2012, 2:32 pm
Kymra   "When is the next song about water?" -...   Nov 19 2012, 11:30 am
OutToDry   Spin doctor Ed. He's got lots of those in his...   Nov 16 2012, 3:21 pm
Pokey   Spin doctor Ed. He's got lots of those in hi...   Nov 16 2012, 3:30 pm
alexou   I said it before but we can only think everything ...   Nov 16 2012, 3:59 pm
SinfulEyes   I said it before but we can only think everything...   Nov 16 2012, 4:02 pm
briburge   Time to honor my favorite trolls on here and star...   Nov 16 2012, 4:11 pm
Lerxst   Just wondering if Ed leaving hurt you financially...   Nov 16 2012, 4:16 pm
SinfulEyes   Hurt me financially? Not at all, but I can tell ...   Nov 16 2012, 4:37 pm
briburge   My guess would be Nicki. Do I have to blindly fo...   Nov 16 2012, 4:39 pm
SinfulEyes   Do I have to blindly follow u and the rest of the...   Nov 16 2012, 4:52 pm
briburge   I'm on no crew. I'm an independent Ed hat...   Nov 16 2012, 4:54 pm
Sonic Tonic   I too am crewless Well unlike you two, I hit t...   Nov 16 2012, 4:58 pm
briburge   Hurt me financially? Not at all, but I can tell ...   Nov 16 2012, 4:38 pm
Lerxst   Just wondering why u are so so mad. Thought u w...   Nov 16 2012, 5:16 pm
Lerxst   In other news today... some tidbits to ponder... ...   Nov 17 2012, 4:14 pm
apesce1   In other news today... some tidbits to ponder... ...   Nov 18 2012, 5:18 pm
Liveman94   It's quite possible you are right Jimmy. Soon...   Nov 17 2012, 8:40 pm
OutToDry   8Bm0RIs-VJU   Nov 17 2012, 9:51 pm
sellingthdrama   Okay, I watched the first interview and I'm go...   Nov 18 2012, 1:45 pm
Pokey   But, on the lead singer bonus - did he not say du...   Nov 18 2012, 2:07 pm
OutToDry   the lead singer bonus was only part of his systema...   Nov 18 2012, 1:56 pm
sellingthdrama   I will say this, though, I listened to Part 2 - an...   Nov 18 2012, 8:30 pm
jayda   I will say this, though, I listened to Part 2 - a...   Nov 18 2012, 9:09 pm
OutToDry   you can say that, his old pals kind of tell him th...   Nov 18 2012, 8:36 pm
Lerxst   Alright, time for another installment, a look at s...   Nov 21 2012, 2:04 pm
themaestro   I see his declaration that he'd like to reunit...   Nov 21 2012, 2:17 pm
SinfulEyes   So no more quotes Ed to newspapers about giving t...   Nov 21 2012, 2:19 pm
Lerxst   It's fine. Ed can continue toiling around wit...   Nov 22 2012, 7:17 pm
SJN1279   " I have no plans to work with those individ...   Nov 22 2012, 7:32 pm
Lerxst   "Sign up for Freaks4Live.com and receive a f...   Nov 22 2012, 7:35 pm
alexou   Embarrassing Nick...there is no way you can come t...   Nov 22 2012, 7:35 pm
alexou   And maybe it will be late, but I have a feeling th...   Nov 22 2012, 7:37 pm
Lerxst   Legal stuff must be involved for the previously u...   Nov 22 2012, 7:47 pm
SJN1279   And maybe it will be late, but I have a feeling t...   Nov 22 2012, 7:58 pm
Lerxst   What about the people who bought a Homespun membe...   Nov 22 2012, 8:05 pm
SJN1279   You need a ride to the show right? I could swing...   Nov 22 2012, 8:09 pm
Lerxst   I have no problem with you personally, but I can ...   Nov 22 2012, 8:17 pm
OutToDry   Did you ever thank me for the meet and greet pa...   Nov 22 2012, 8:20 pm
SJN1279   Did you ever thank me for the meet and greet pass...   Nov 22 2012, 8:34 pm
alexou   I did thank you for that, and I also apologized t...   Nov 22 2012, 8:36 pm
OutToDry   I did thank you for that, and I also apologized...   Nov 22 2012, 8:51 pm
Lerxst   I did thank you for that, and I also apologized t...   Nov 22 2012, 8:53 pm
Live4Life   Did you ever thank me for the meet and greet pass...   Nov 22 2012, 8:46 pm
Lerxst   For fucks sake, shut the fuck up..mr. my shit doe...   Nov 22 2012, 8:55 pm
OutToDry   For fucks sake, shut the fuck up..mr. my shit d...   Nov 22 2012, 8:56 pm
Lerxst   I remember back in the day when ed was your hero ...   Nov 22 2012, 9:00 pm
alexou   Maybe they should have...fans still have the choic...   Nov 22 2012, 8:05 pm
OutToDry   Hey the stuffed turkey is back online. Gobble gob...   Nov 22 2012, 8:18 pm
alexou   Didn't know he talked in Ed's back before....   Nov 22 2012, 8:24 pm
Lerxst   Didn't know he talked in Ed's back before...   Nov 22 2012, 8:30 pm
OutToDry   You can find that exchange here somewhere   Nov 22 2012, 8:30 pm
SinfulEyes   You can find that exchange here somewhere Pleas...   Nov 22 2012, 8:32 pm
OutToDry   Please dig that up and send it to Ed. You'r...   Nov 22 2012, 8:44 pm
alexou   I think I remember vaguely now...but no time to lo...   Nov 22 2012, 8:34 pm
SinfulEyes   I too looked up to Ed back in the day. Anyone who ...   Nov 22 2012, 9:04 pm
OutToDry   ah Luke was censored again....... here is the re...   Nov 28 2012, 10:18 pm
zmanpga   no time or enegry for all this bickering, see you ...   Nov 29 2012, 6:56 am


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