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[Opinechik]

Ok. I still have things to say, so I'll do it here.

[Pokey]

It does suck, but dont blame the guys, they WERE here but they took a disliking to the place and they left well before WD was made. If this place got rid of certain problems they probably would have stayed here I imagine, if WD wasnt around they wouldnt be posting on any forums, so they're not playing favorites, it was something they obviously wanted to do and tried to do and it didnt work out here, but it is working out elsewhere, it sucks for the people who do like them who only want to post here and not elsewhere, but thats the way it is ... to blame the guys for that is just silly. At least they made an effort to interact with the fans, unlike SOMEONE who just turns up at the merch desk. oo low blow

This post has been edited by Pokey: Nov 11 2012, 9:55 am

[Opinechik]

It does suck, but dont blame the guys, they WERE here but they took a disliking to the place and they left well before WD was made. If this place got rid of certain problems they probably would have stayed here I imagine, if WD wasnt around they wouldnt be posting on any forums, so they're not playing favorites, it was something they obviously wanted to do and tried to do and it didnt work out here, but it is working out elsewhere, it sucks for the people who do like them who only want to post here and not elsewhere, but thats the way it is ... to blame the guys for that is just silly.

In your opinion, it's silly to blame the guys.
In my opinion it's just as silly that the guys won't come here.

[themaestro]

In your opinion, it's silly to blame the guys.
In my opinion it's just as silly that the guys won't come here.

No, they shouldn't come here. This site allowed a thread promoting Nick's agenda to drum up support for a Live reunion with Ed, while CS is currently the singer. If this was a Live oriented site it would truly recognize and accept the band in its current format. I asked that the thread be deleted on this basis and was denied. As long as this site allows bs like that it is anti-Live and I don't blame anyone that supports Live for not visiting here especially CCCP.

[Lerxst]

This site allowed a thread promoting Nick's agenda to drum up support for a Live reunion with Ed, while CS is currently the singer.

I must have missed the boat on that one. Before my time on here I guess. That's too bad because nothing spells DISRESPECT for the band and CCCP than endorsing an agenda like that! And doing that while CS was the current lead singer? I think I'll just call that how I see it - FUCKING BULLSHIT!

-Jimmy

[Opinechik]

I must have missed the boat on that one. Before my time on here I guess. That's too bad because nothing spells DISRESPECT for the band and CCCP than endorsing an agenda like that! And doing that while CS was the current lead singer? I think I'll just call that how I see it - FUCKING BULLSHIT!

-Jimmy

Right, but it was one pissant, not the whole board.

[Pokey]

Right, but it was one pissant, not the whole board.

maybe it is one or two pissants but its obviously enough to throw the board into a shit storm of a place that they just don't want to be a part of. its not that hard to comprehend

Like I said, they tried posting here and it didnt work for them, hell Nick was arguing directly with KM about how KM viewed TGF; pretty sure KM knows more about that than Nick does. They gave up on this place long before WD came along, if WD never came along i doubt they would post anywhere. If this place had actually done something to stop the descent into madness they may have come back .. as it turns out we have what we have and thats where we are now.

[Opinechik]

maybe it is one or two pissants but its obviously enough to throw the board into a shit storm of a place that they just don't want to be a part of. its not that hard to comprehend

Like I said, they tried posting here and it didnt work for them, hell Nick was arguing directly with KM about how KM viewed TGF; pretty sure KM knows more about that than Nick does. They gave up on this place long before WD came along, if WD never came along i doubt they would post anywhere. If this place had actually done something to stop the descent into madness they may have come back .. as it turns out we have what we have and thats where we are now.

'kay when you start insulting things like my comprehension... it pretty much makes me done.

[Pokey]

'kay when you start insulting things like my comprehension... it pretty much makes me done.

But I don't understand how you it doesn't compute that CCCP don't like the environment here, so they don't post here. That's all it is. Saying "they should just ignore it" is what YOU would do, but everyone is different and as i say, they probably feel really uncomfortable with arguments flying all about ABOUT THEM, regardless of whether they partake in the arguments or not, they just don't like it.
That's out fault, Team Ed, Team CCP and the board management, its not something to level at the guys.

[Opinechik]

But I don't understand how you it doesn't compute that CCCP don't like the environment here, so they don't post here. That's all it is. Saying "they should just ignore it" is what YOU would do, but everyone is different and as i say, they probably feel really uncomfortable with arguments flying all about ABOUT THEM, regardless of whether they partake in the arguments or not, they just don't like it.
That's out fault, Team Ed, Team CCP and the board management, its not something to level at the guys.

So because you don't understand my thought process you insult my comprehension? Um....okaaaaay.

[Pokey]

So because you don't understand my thought process you insult my comprehension? Um....okaaaaay.

Well I apologise for that, but it just seemed the situation is pretty black and white... I don't really think your gripe with them is all that valid.

Do you equally blame Ed for not posting here? By the same logic, shouldn't he just ignore everything that's going on and come on over for a bit of a post?

He might get attacked by members, but then again so did members of LiveTGF. You can't say he doesn't belong here or the place isn't for him because if you say that then it's not for people like Nick either. So I'd imagine you also blame Ed for not posting here?

This post has been edited by Pokey: Nov 11 2012, 11:01 am

[Opinechik]

Well I apologise for that, but it just seemed the situation is pretty black and white... I don't really think your gripe with them is all that valid.

Do you equally blame Ed for not posting here? By the same logic, shouldn't he just ignore everything that's going on and come on over for a bit of a post?

He might get attacked by members, but then again so did members of LiveTGF. You can't say he doesn't belong here or the place isn't for him because if you say that then it's not for people like Nick either. So I'd imagine you also blame Ed for not posting here?

And it's fine for you to voice that...it's the personal insults I prefer to do without while debating.

And I might blame Ed for not posting here if this were an Ed fan board, but it isn't...so no I don't.

[Pokey]

And it's fine for you to voice that...it's the personal insults I prefer to do without while debating.

And I might blame Ed for not posting here if this were an Ed fan board, but it isn't...so no I don't.

Well it wasn't meant as an insult, more an honest wondering, maybe I am the one with the comprehension problems, but I just failed to see how someone could comprehend that they don't post here because they don't like it here.

ah ha! now there is something many of us have been saying for a long time, it's not an Ed fan board, its for LIVE. Clearly some people aren't here for Live and we argued they shouldn't be here at all then. And if you say "well Ed was a part of Live.." as a justification for them being here, then surely that means Ed should be here posting too! Hell I think of all the Live guys it was actually a person not in Live, KM, who posted here more than any of them. Surely Ed could come and post in his little Ed section right?

This post has been edited by Pokey: Nov 11 2012, 11:11 am

[Opinechik]

Well it wasn't meant as an insult, more an honest wondering, maybe I am the one with the comprehension problems, but I just failed to see how someone could comprehend that they don't post here because they don't like it here.

ah ha! now there is something many of us have been saying for a long time, it's not an Ed fan board, its for LIVE. Clearly some people aren't here for Live and we argued they shouldn't be here at all then. And if you say "well Ed was a part of Live.." as a justification for them being here, then surely that means Ed should be here posting too! Hell I think of all the Live guys it was actually a person not in Live, KM, who posted here more than any of them. Surely Ed could come and post in his little Ed section right?

I do understand that... my contention is boo fucking hoo, you have fans here too, suck it up.

[Pokey]

I do understand that... my contention is boo fucking hoo, you have fans here too, suck it up.

Fair enough, well I guess my contention is boo fucking hoo, you don't get everything you want

Its amazing they post ANYWHERE other than FB which not a great deal of bands do for any selection of their fans.

[Opinechik]

Fair enough, well I guess my contention is boo fucking hoo, you don't get everything you want

Its amazing they post ANYWHERE other than FB which not a great deal of bands do for any selection of their fans.

Of course I don't....but that isn't going to stop me from giving my opinion about not getting it.