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If you believe Ed is being marketed incorrectly (or deceptively) on his tour dates, please discuss it here. There's no need to go over the same ground in each tour date thread. Any future discussion on this topic will be moved here...

Is Ed really 'moving on' when 80% of his setlist is Live material?
Should Ed be referred to as "formerly of Live" in concert promotion?
Is Ed using his connection to Live too much?
Is Ed or the record label responsible for the marketing?
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QUOTE(OutToDry @ Oct 14 2012, 12:01 am) *

Summerfest, ah yeah, there were 2 big acts playing at the same time when TGF got their slot, I've been told by TGF that people came around asking about them but they had tickets the other acts.....just bad timing there.

TGF outsold and continues to outsell Ed's solo record in the US. Ive been told this by the band. I did hype the 10-1 thing and you pick the only thing I was wrong about. THey had good attendance in most of the big market towns, and had more headcount at a lot of the same venues that Ed played at only weeks before......this is facts. TGF rejected TIcketmaster minimums of 25-30 dollar tickets because the guys wanted to give the fans affordable music (10 dollar shows), this cut into their guaranteed profits....but guess what.....they're moving forward as they took home more in one show than Ed did for 2 years of touring.




Ed has sold more than TGF in the US just by continuing to tour and sell albums at his shows. Ed's album also debuted higher than TGF's on the Billboard charts in the US, and also charted in the Netherlands, Belgium, and Australia while TGF did not.

TGF sold tickets for 10 bucks because they didn't want to play to empty houses. Even if TGF had a higher headcount at certain shows(which is debatable), the ticket prices were half of what Ed's tickets were.
. I seriously doubt they made more money opening for Candlebox on one show than Ed did over two years time(especially when you factor in his very profitable overseas runs). Ed has worked much harder than CCP when it comes to touring and it shows(even Kevin Martin admits it).

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dangum   Deceptive marketing of Ed Kowalczyk   May 16 2012, 11:54 pm
+Ed+   I still do think he believes what he's sellin...   May 17 2012, 12:41 am
Wambangalang   i think its business and anything goes. fuck do i ...   May 17 2012, 5:02 am
thefunkyredcaboose   I do think Ed is marketing himself deceptively, bu...   May 17 2012, 7:48 am
World Dreamer   If you believe Ed is being marketed incorrectly (...   May 17 2012, 8:19 am
SJN1279   Ed is using his connection of Live way too much...   May 17 2012, 10:07 am
possum   The fans are also going to be confused when they ...   May 17 2012, 10:27 am
thefunkyredcaboose   Funny thing is that it will be a Live show. Adver...   May 17 2012, 10:45 am
OutToDry   Funny thing is that it will be a Live show. Adve...   May 17 2012, 2:46 pm
FishOutaWater   The fans are also going to be confused when they ...   May 17 2012, 10:46 am
World Dreamer   I doubt that anyone who goes to a Live concert wi...   May 17 2012, 10:52 am
Pokey   Yeah I've said it before, I can just see in Ni...   May 17 2012, 11:09 am
OutToDry   I doubt that anyone who goes to a Live concert ...   May 17 2012, 2:48 pm
themaestro   Any true fan of Live would be very disappointed in...   May 17 2012, 10:46 am
World Dreamer   Hell, Live has already done a bit to announce Shin...   May 17 2012, 11:12 am
+Ed+   I keep trembling when I recall the crowd reaction ...   May 17 2012, 12:30 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I keep trembling when I recall the crowd reaction...   May 17 2012, 1:18 pm
Good_Pain   And you didn't even see the shots of me naked...   May 17 2012, 1:45 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I somehow don't remember this, maybe it's...   May 17 2012, 2:22 pm
World Dreamer   Still waiting for an answer to this....   May 17 2012, 3:55 pm
zmanpga   C,C,C,P and M will sell out every fucking venue th...   May 17 2012, 4:07 pm
World Dreamer   C,C,C,P and M will sell out every fucking venue t...   May 17 2012, 4:25 pm
OutToDry   this little 'oh it's an honest mistake...   May 17 2012, 9:13 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   this little 'oh it's an honest mistake...   May 18 2012, 7:54 am
OutToDry   Yes its real...go back to the Canada EK show threa...   May 18 2012, 8:32 am
World Dreamer   Yep. Ed the Deceiver. A good name for his next Chr...   May 18 2012, 8:41 am
Good_Pain   Of course he and his backing band could be collect...   May 18 2012, 8:48 am
possum   Of course he and his backing band could be collec...   May 18 2012, 9:06 am
Pokey   Of course he and his backing band could be collec...   May 18 2012, 7:08 pm
Good_Pain   Nah def still "Eddie K and the Noticable Dro...   May 18 2012, 7:45 pm
World Dreamer   Nah def still "Eddie K and the Noticable Dro...   May 18 2012, 8:09 pm
Pokey   I don't know, man. They fooled Nick. Not a ...   May 18 2012, 9:31 pm
OutToDry   Seems as if Ed still going to exploit the Live Mar...   Jul 29 2012, 2:46 pm
SJN1279   Seems as if Ed still going to exploit the Live Ma...   Jul 29 2012, 3:11 pm
Pokey   He wrote the songs, and he is performing the song...   Jul 29 2012, 3:48 pm
Merica   Ed is content to be a deceiving heritage act.   Jul 29 2012, 3:22 pm
OutToDry   Guess you were sucking the teat again. I hope u e...   Jul 29 2012, 3:52 pm
jayda   He is as pigheaded as they come. Whether he believ...   Jul 29 2012, 4:02 pm
Aitkens   I cannot wait for the hammer to fall on his ass. ...   Jul 29 2012, 4:57 pm
SinfulEyes   I cannot wait for the hammer to fall on his ass. ...   Jul 29 2012, 5:55 pm
alexou   Not only he uses Live's name when he is out of...   Jul 29 2012, 8:24 pm
Hobbsy   "Ed Kowalczyk of Live" About: ED KOWAL...   Oct 6 2012, 1:49 am
OutToDry   and this is what Chad speaks of, it's all from...   Oct 6 2012, 7:55 am
SJN1279   and this is what Chad speaks of, it's all fro...   Oct 6 2012, 8:18 am
dangum   When Ed was sued over selling songs on his websi...   Oct 6 2012, 8:43 am
SJN1279   Bootlegs are still available on Ed's site. h...   Oct 6 2012, 8:48 am
Hobbsy   I'm pretty sure Ed, his managers, and lawyers...   Oct 6 2012, 8:45 am
SJN1279   He's not in Live. He can't bill himself t...   Oct 6 2012, 8:50 am
Hobbsy   Just like CCP taking 75 percent of the songwritin...   Oct 6 2012, 8:57 am
SJN1279   He doesn't "Deserve" anything excep...   Oct 6 2012, 9:02 am
Hobbsy   A brand that he helped create and wrote all the s...   Oct 6 2012, 9:11 am
OutToDry   A brand that he walked away from but decided to...   Oct 6 2012, 9:21 am
OutToDry   Listen, for the 1,000,000th time. Ed gets and wil...   Oct 6 2012, 9:08 am
SJN1279   He wanted to be Live by himself. Now CCP a...   Oct 6 2012, 9:38 am
OutToDry   Now CCP are trying to be LIVE without Ed..........   Oct 6 2012, 9:46 am
OutToDry   yes this is the right place to talk this, thanks f...   Oct 6 2012, 9:14 am
SinfulEyes   And round and round we go. Nick will never get it ...   Oct 6 2012, 9:58 am
Hobbsy   And round and round we go. Nick will never get it...   Oct 6 2012, 5:20 pm
Lerxst   There's no belief in it.. it's a fact...   Oct 9 2012, 9:19 pm
SinfulEyes   There's no belief in it.. it's a fact...   Oct 9 2012, 9:26 pm
OutToDry   i heard Nick has got some sweatshop printer in Nut...   Oct 9 2012, 9:25 pm
OutToDry   some accurate marketing for Ed (sans his concert p...   Oct 9 2012, 10:17 pm
Lerxst   Yeah only thing missing is a HUGE GIANTIC LIVE LOG...   Oct 9 2012, 10:24 pm
OutToDry   Yeah only thing missing is a HUGE GIANTIC LIVE LO...   Oct 9 2012, 10:26 pm
Lerxst   THAT WOULD BE..........DECEPTIVE!!! ...   Oct 9 2012, 10:43 pm
OutToDry   Ha! you got me. my bad. -Jimmy all goo...   Oct 9 2012, 10:45 pm
+Ed+   guys, let's face it. If there is no respect in...   Oct 10 2012, 4:42 am
SJN1279   No LIVE in the billing for Maryland and only side ...   Oct 10 2012, 7:55 am
World Dreamer   No LIVE in the billing for Maryland and only side...   Oct 10 2012, 8:12 am
Aitkens   That's a freaking dinner theater style venue. ...   Oct 10 2012, 8:34 am
World Dreamer   That's a freaking dinner theater style venue....   Oct 10 2012, 8:39 am
FishOutaWater   "Ed Kowalczyk, the singer and songwriting for...   Oct 10 2012, 10:07 am
SJN1279   "Ed Kowalczyk, the singer and songwriting fo...   Oct 10 2012, 11:01 am
FishOutaWater   Um, isn't he? The title of the show reads: ...   Oct 10 2012, 11:39 am
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