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post Oct 5 2012, 7:31 am
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Chad Taylor - 11 seconds ago via mobileThe new LIVE tracks just keep getting better and better. Shinn is CRUSHING his vocal performances. As a producer he is an utter pleasure to record. We wrapped this session late last night so I'll spend the day making rough mixes for the boys and management. We are not rushing this process and it really shows in the quality. LIVE fans have waited 13 years for a real LIVE album and we're not about to let you down - CT
The process is taking time for the right reasons!!! Awesome!!


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post Oct 5 2012, 11:06 am
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funky nailed it, In his last comment, CT really opens up indirectly and directly about the last 10 years. He really isn't happy with these years, for the band AND for himself as well. Hew wished it could have been different but it wasn't. He still feels bad about it. He regrets it. He laid it down.

I don't understand why CCP stayed in this band relationship for all this time. After all they were 3 against Ed for the musical direction, but it is the past, and we (and they)moved on. It took long, but finally we're there. This week has been so good for a true Live fan. We won't be disappointed and SFBM will turn itself in its grave when it will hear the record. Because even worms aren't interested to SFBM.



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QUOTE(alexou @ Oct 5 2012, 12:06 pm) *

I don't understand why CCP stayed in this band relationship for all this time. After all they were 3 against Ed for the musical direction, but it is the past, and we (and they)moved on. It took long, but finally we're there. This week has been so good for a true Live fan. We won't be disappointed and SFBM will turn itself in its grave when it will hear the record. Because even worms aren't interested to SFBM.


It is hard to explain, but I think it was a combination of these things:

-Creativity - Creatively, it is sometimes hard to see if what you are doing is good or not. I think SFBM was so obviously poor that it finally woke the guys up, but V and BOP still had bright spots where all four contributed. Sometimes you have to take a break to be honest about your work.

-Security - Like it or not, a lot of bands continue putting out music because it's their source of income and they aren't sure they can do anything else, or aren't ready to give up the perks and the lifestyle that they and their family have grown accustomed to. Not necessarily admirable, but sometimes you stick it out in a crappy job just to keep the checks coming.

-Contracts - Don't ever discount the influence of recording and other contracts on these situations. The guys have never had complete control of their music until now.

-Fear - I think on some level the guys didn't feel like they could do it without Ed who had been the voice of the band, no matter how controlling and musically poor that voice became. Those kinds of band bonds are hard to break out of, and as we all know replacing Ed has been a sore spot for some of the fans of the band. I think TGF proved to the guys that they could make awesome music with other musicians.

-Friendship - It's obvious that the guys lost their friendship with Ed along the way, but the constant compromise was definitely a way to try and preserve those relationships.

There are other things, but this should be a pretty good guide to how these things happen.


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QUOTE(thefunkyredcaboose @ Oct 5 2012, 12:16 pm) *


It is hard to explain, but I think it was a combination of these things:

-Creativity - Creatively, it is sometimes hard to see if what you are doing is good or not. I think SFBM was so obviously poor that it finally woke the guys up, but V and BOP still had bright spots where all four contributed. Sometimes you have to take a break to be honest about your work.

-Security - Like it or not, a lot of bands continue putting out music because it's their source of income and they aren't sure they can do anything else, or aren't ready to give up the perks and the lifestyle that they and their family have grown accustomed to. Not necessarily admirable, but sometimes you stick it out in a crappy job just to keep the checks coming.

-Contracts - Don't ever discount the influence of recording and other contracts on these situations. The guys have never had complete control of their music until now.

-Fear - I think on some level the guys didn't feel like they could do it without Ed who had been the voice of the band, no matter how controlling and musically poor that voice became. Those kinds of band bonds are hard to break out of, and as we all know replacing Ed has been a sore spot for some of the fans of the band. I think TGF proved to the guys that they could make awesome music with other musicians.

-Friendship - It's obvious that the guys lost their friendship with Ed along the way, but the constant compromise was definitely a way to try and preserve those relationships.

There are other things, but this should be a pretty good guide to how these things happen.




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OutToDry   CT on New Album   Oct 5 2012, 7:31 am
Pokey   sounds good to me!   Oct 5 2012, 7:38 am
World Dreamer   These updates are great. I am really glad they hav...   Oct 5 2012, 8:11 am
thefunkyredcaboose   :rockin: :rockin: :rockin: :rockin: :rockin:   Oct 5 2012, 8:45 am
BERLINONE   CT is right --> we indeed waited 13 years, let...   Oct 5 2012, 8:52 am
+Ed+   http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/11...   Oct 5 2012, 8:54 am
possum   Awesome update. I know it will be worth the wait.   Oct 5 2012, 9:02 am
thefunkyredcaboose   LOL at the people who follow CT just to bash him. ...   Oct 5 2012, 9:53 am
OutToDry   LOL at the people who follow CT just to bash him....   Oct 5 2012, 10:17 am
SJN1279   LOL at the people who follow CT just to bash him....   Oct 5 2012, 10:18 am
Aitkens   They follow him because they are fans of LIVE, an...   Oct 5 2012, 10:35 am
World Dreamer   They follow him because they are fans of LIVE, an...   Oct 5 2012, 10:39 am
SinfulEyes   ...putting down those albums also puts down the f...   Oct 5 2012, 11:22 am
World Dreamer   Here we go again with the pot calling the kettle ...   Oct 5 2012, 11:43 am
themaestro   Having a difference of opinion is one thing, but p...   Oct 5 2012, 10:39 am
alexou   When I read that , I almost regreted writing about...   Oct 5 2012, 10:10 am
Live4Life   I don't folow him just to bash him...i follow ...   Oct 5 2012, 10:18 am
Pokey   and all the people bashing CT just happen to be fr...   Oct 5 2012, 10:22 am
OutToDry   and all the people bashing CT just happen to be f...   Oct 5 2012, 10:28 am
OutToDry   Let's be honest here. Those who came to be f...   Oct 5 2012, 10:26 am
thefunkyredcaboose   Internet tough guys.   Oct 5 2012, 10:35 am
tarduk   It's good because he knows truth about their l...   Oct 5 2012, 10:45 am
+Ed+   Let's be honest here. Those who came to be ...   Oct 5 2012, 10:46 am
OutToDry   Phew! Thank god I got in in 1999 :D TDT...   Oct 5 2012, 10:47 am
OutToDry   i guess they're feeling they're owed somet...   Oct 5 2012, 10:46 am
briburge   i guess they're feeling they're owed some...   Oct 5 2012, 2:26 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I think the guys have accepted plenty of responsib...   Oct 5 2012, 10:49 am
OutToDry   I think the guys have accepted plenty of responsi...   Oct 5 2012, 10:57 am
thefunkyredcaboose   They have said it many times in the past 2+ years...   Oct 5 2012, 10:58 am
andymbj   . How does putting down the last three albums a...   Oct 5 2012, 10:51 am
thefunkyredcaboose   . How does putting down the last three albums als...   Oct 5 2012, 10:57 am
FishOutaWater   I like SFBM. I don't love it, but I like it. ...   Oct 5 2012, 11:16 am
thefunkyredcaboose   I like SFBM. I don't love it, but I like it....   Oct 5 2012, 11:27 am
FishOutaWater   Dude, you don't have to admit things like tha...   Oct 5 2012, 11:53 am
themaestro   He he. What can I say. I know that it ruins my ...   Oct 5 2012, 11:57 am
sellingthdrama   I think that if you can't hear the differenc...   Oct 5 2012, 2:08 pm
Pokey   There is music I liked 10 years ago and probably a...   Oct 5 2012, 11:12 am
World Dreamer   There HAS to be a song on the new Live album calle...   Oct 5 2012, 12:04 pm
+Ed+   I like SFBM and hate Alive. Lemme shake yer h...   Oct 5 2012, 12:33 pm
FishOutaWater   Lemme shake yer hand bro. Same here. If I could...   Oct 5 2012, 1:05 pm
+Ed+   You got it, Fish :thumbsup:   Oct 5 2012, 1:15 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   ohmygod Ed you too?? Ed, You like SFBM but you do...   Oct 5 2012, 1:18 pm
World Dreamer   I've mentioned it before but if I had no expos...   Oct 5 2012, 1:21 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I've mentioned it before but if I had no expo...   Oct 5 2012, 1:27 pm
mfitz804   So lets see. MJ came out in 1991 (by one day). Its...   Oct 5 2012, 1:39 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   So lets see. MJ came out in 1991 (by one day). It...   Oct 5 2012, 1:46 pm
World Dreamer   And, in my opinion, CT has been up front about wha...   Oct 5 2012, 1:50 pm
mfitz804   Why? I think a lot of bands put out more bad musi...   Oct 5 2012, 2:28 pm
OutToDry   I'll accept your math. Even still, he shoul...   Oct 5 2012, 2:31 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I'll accept your math. Even still, he should ...   Oct 5 2012, 3:32 pm
OutToDry   Why are people so afraid to admit that some people...   Oct 5 2012, 1:57 pm
SinfulEyes   Why are people so afraid to admit that some peopl...   Oct 5 2012, 2:13 pm
PillarOfDavidson   i guess they're feeling they're owed some...   Oct 5 2012, 2:23 pm
OutToDry   Off-topic, but what does the Sisters of Mercy p...   Oct 5 2012, 2:30 pm
PillarOfDavidson   Off-topic, but what does the Sisters of Mercy pai...   Oct 5 2012, 4:35 pm
alexou   Weird that some old school fan like SFBM. For me t...   Oct 5 2012, 2:27 pm
Live4Life   I love EVERY SINGLE live CD! EVERY ONE!...   Oct 5 2012, 2:33 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I love EVERY SINGLE live CD! EVERY ONE!...   Oct 5 2012, 3:37 pm
Deku   Take all the time you need Chad, we ain't goin...   Oct 5 2012, 2:39 pm
Sonic Tonic   Take all the time you need Chad, we ain't goi...   Oct 5 2012, 2:42 pm


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