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fearisnottheend
post May 28 2006, 4:11 pm
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Hey ya'll! I'm new to the board but i'm not a new fan. I've been hooked since 95. I saw them for the first time in Birmingham, Alabama in 97. I've seen them 9 times total. I used to post on the subculture of dreams message board. I was so excited when i found out about this board.


My least favorite LIVE album is V. I really feel like there are alot of good things about the album mixed in with a few things that just didn't work for me.

If i could change some things about V, i would start with taking out the keyboards and samples. No offense to Railo but i just didn't like it. It worked on TDTH but not on V (in my opinion).

I would completely remove Deep Enough, FMNBLE, and Ok. Just don't care for them at all. Also, Overcome wouldn't be on it either but more on that in a minute.

I would take out all the rap on the album. All the "puppy scruff", "write a song so good it make a midget grow", "bowh bowh everybody in the hotel", all that stuff. Ed is a great songwriter and frontman. He can and has done MUCH better than that.

Overcome would have the whole band on it instead of the piano and orchestra stuff. I heard a clip of LIVE doing this song at a Tibet House function years back. It was "haunting". Totally different sound from what they put out. I would have put it on TDTH. I met Ed a few years back after a show on the TDTH tour. I asked about Overcome and he said they were saving it for the next album. Wish they wouldn't have.

Anyways, I think V has some GREAT guitar riffs. It could have been a really strong album. I listen to it and try to ignore the lyrics.

What do ya'll think?

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post May 28 2006, 4:23 pm
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Hi, welcome!

I think just the combo of good old guitar, bass, drums, and the classic Ed-style of singing would've made this sound more pleasant.


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fearisnottheend   what would have made V better?   May 28 2006, 4:11 pm
WaiterAtCliftons   Oh boy thank god Beau hasn't seen this yet. H...   May 28 2006, 4:34 pm
beau99   Oh boy thank god Beau hasn't seen this yet. ...   May 28 2006, 5:27 pm
serene23   Not true at all. I dislike half of the album, to...   May 28 2006, 6:02 pm
mattdm11   as someone earlier said...its a fun album to liste...   May 28 2006, 7:24 pm
Grandpa Grizz   If half of the songs were as good as the other hal...   May 28 2006, 7:27 pm
fearisnottheend   Its cool to be able to discuss LIVE with other peo...   May 28 2006, 7:47 pm
Grandpa Grizz   I will say this, i'd rather listen to LIVE...   May 28 2006, 8:56 pm
beau99   Wasn't trying to rap and doing a collaboratio...   May 28 2006, 9:03 pm
sherocker   Trying to rap? Yeah. Collaborating with Tricky? ...   May 29 2006, 3:46 am
aLIVEinNORWAY   hell yeah! for the record...I LOVE V!...   Jun 2 2006, 1:40 pm
SheRyche   I will say this, i'd rather listen to LIVE...   Jun 2 2006, 2:55 pm
mfitz804   Its probably my least favorite Live album, but I d...   May 28 2006, 8:00 pm
sandkind   i personally love V and at times it is my favorite...   May 28 2006, 8:18 pm
fearisnottheend   Yeah, i totally agree that the lyrics on V overall...   May 28 2006, 8:30 pm
Lively Chick   I absolutely love the part in Transmit where Chad...   May 29 2006, 1:59 am
Senghe   The whistling in Nobody Knows *shudder* was there ...   May 29 2006, 7:40 am
mfitz804   The whistling in Nobody Knows *shudder* was there...   May 29 2006, 8:42 am
Grandpa Grizz   Ed's a whistler. Recall that he whistles in ...   May 29 2006, 11:59 am
Lively Chick   I thought the collaboration with Tricky was great...   May 29 2006, 1:15 pm
StopBanningMe123   "V" would have been somewhat decent if t...   May 29 2006, 1:36 pm
NectarDan   Yeah, I like the whistling too. :whistle:   May 29 2006, 12:10 pm
Lively Chick   :whistling: :whistling:   May 30 2006, 7:52 pm
mahaffey   Does anyone have a version of Overcome with the fu...   May 30 2006, 9:34 pm
NectarDan   Does anyone have a version of Overcome with the f...   May 30 2006, 9:56 pm
fandelive   Here's a live version from back in 1998. The ...   Jun 2 2006, 2:22 pm
NectarDan   Dan, should I have some reason to be really reall...   Jun 2 2006, 2:37 pm
sandkind   I'll leave that up to you to decide for now. ...   Jun 2 2006, 5:38 pm
mahaffey   Thank you. You are truly AWESOME!   May 30 2006, 10:29 pm
seriakiLLa   Hey thanks for that! I haven't heard that...   May 30 2006, 11:05 pm
fearisnottheend   Hey thanks for that! I haven't heard tha...   Jun 1 2006, 11:09 am
NectarDan   Is there a bootleg version of that concert availa...   Jun 1 2006, 12:31 pm
fearisnottheend   I believe it's available at bootlegheaven.com...   Jun 1 2006, 12:37 pm
sandkind   thanks dan. wish they'd still play it this wa...   Jun 1 2006, 6:33 pm
beau99   No they haven't... but yeah, great song :nod:   Jun 2 2006, 1:53 pm
grantrobertstoker   No they haven't... but yeah, great song :nod...   Jun 2 2006, 2:31 pm
beau99   Disagreed. Flow is one of the worst songs on the ...   Jun 2 2006, 4:32 pm
grantrobertstoker   Dan... is this Mets again? This reply certainly l...   Jun 2 2006, 5:25 pm
beau99   V went gold in the U.S.? Yeah it did. No Live al...   Jun 2 2006, 5:47 pm
WaiterAtCliftons   Yeah it did. No Live album has sold as much since...   Jun 2 2006, 5:52 pm
beau99   "V" did NOT go gold. I could've s...   Jun 2 2006, 6:01 pm
grantrobertstoker   "V" did NOT go gold. And its not like...   Jun 2 2006, 7:03 pm
sandkind   actually V came after TDTH. Anyway, back to topic...   Jun 2 2006, 9:00 pm


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