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post Jun 9 2012, 7:32 pm
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I'm the 1st person to say and understand everyone is different and everyone has different tastes. But as Live fans I'm really interested on feedback on how you can't like this song? I never understood why there was so much contempt for this disc, but yet such a affinity for the abortion that was V? I'm not stirring the hornets nest here, I'm really just curious. Like I Do came up on shuffle mode on my drive home and I cranked the shit out of it and loved it. So just wondering why so many people dismiss this song like it was Call me A Fool or some P.O.S. from SFBM.

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QUOTE(donno @ Jun 9 2012, 8:32 pm) *

I'm the 1st person to say and understand everyone is different and everyone has different tastes. But as Live fans I'm really interested on feedback on how you can't like this song? I never understood why there was so much contempt for this disc, but yet such a affinity for the abortion that was V? I'm not stirring the hornets nest here, I'm really just curious. Like I Do came up on shuffle mode on my drive home and I cranked the shit out of it and loved it. So just wondering why so many people dismiss this song like it was Call me A Fool or some P.O.S. from SFBM.

OK, go....

http://youtu.be/DUNANoV_BMw



People generally like "Like I Do", solely because it was a song that the band actually collaborated on. V is heavily disliked because it was an abortion. BOP was mostly the EK show, and the music suffered. Seriously, Heaven is a shitty song. As is Run Away. They were terrible singles, and were some of the final striking blows that killed Live. Like I Do would have actually been a good song to release, but that never happened.


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QUOTE(Aitkens @ Jun 9 2012, 8:39 pm) *

Seriously, Heaven is a shitty song. As is Run Away. They were terrible singles, and were some of the final striking blows that killed Live. Like I Do would have actually been a good song to release, but that never happened.


Heaven was a major hit for the band worldwide, and the BOP tour that coincided with the single was a sell out in the majority of cities. Heaven is also actually one of my favorite LIVE songs and it holds up today IMHO. Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it a "shitty song".


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post Jun 11 2012, 8:44 am
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Jun 11 2012, 9:03 am) *

Heaven was a major hit for the band worldwide, and the BOP tour that coincided with the single was a sell out in the majority of cities. Heaven is also actually one of my favorite LIVE songs and it holds up today IMHO. Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it a "shitty song".



Heaven is not a song that personifies Live. It was a song that sums up EK's fall, and was one of the final striking blows that killed Live at the time.

The song sucks. It's pure sappy pop trash. I'm not shocked that it is one of your favorite Live songs.


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QUOTE(Aitkens @ Jun 11 2012, 9:44 am) *

It's pure sappy pop trash.


This is objective truth.

-Obvious, basic, pop/praise chorus chord progression - check
-By the numbers song structure - check
-Cheesy, thin lyrics - check
-Entire song playing to the chorus hook - check

I like some pure sappy pop trash a bit, so this isn't necessarily a diss, I just don't like seeing Live doing it. I remember seeing Chad stomping to this song on one of the light night shows and realizing that one of my favorite bands was done making great music.

All you have to know about Live is that this is that last Live tune that casual listeners remember.

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QUOTE(thefunkyredcaboose @ Jun 11 2012, 10:09 am) *

This is objective truth.

-Obvious, basic, pop/praise chorus chord progression - check
-By the numbers song structure - check
-Cheesy, thin lyrics - check
-Entire song playing to the chorus hook - check

I like some pure sappy pop trash a bit, so this isn't necessarily a diss, I just don't like seeing Live doing it. I remember seeing Chad stomping to this song on one of the light night shows and realizing that one of my favorite bands was done making great music.

All you have to know about Live is that this is that last Live tune that casual listeners remember.


Gotta disagree with you here bro. I can name you a fuckload of songs that follow the formula you mention here, but were actually some pretty good fucking songs. When it comes to music, their is little left to objectivity.

As for LID, I still stand by my statements from long ago in saying that this is my favorite track from this band period. Although the lyrics are fucking putridly awful for the most of it. The song has an errie feel to it that makes the hair on my neck and arms stand up. I was in disbelief when it was not chosen as the first single. In my opinion, this song fits like a fucking glove on SS, just before Heropsychodreamer.

As for Heaven??? Can't believe I'm saying this but I agree with Nick here omg.gif

I find nothing wrong with the song except that it's way too weenie rock pop. And I disagree with the assertion that the lyrics are really bad. I wouldn't say they are great neither by any stretch, but I think anybody who says they are pure trash is a tad off their fucking rocker. I do admit that I have an emotional attachment to this song. Having two beautiful young daughters myself helped this song strike home for me.

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donno   Like I Do   Jun 9 2012, 7:32 pm
World Dreamer   Heaven was a major hit for the band worldwide, an...   Jun 11 2012, 8:08 am
Pokey   Heaven was a major hit for the band worldwide, an...   Jun 11 2012, 10:21 am
Sonic Tonic   I think the most of us on here agree that this is ...   Jun 9 2012, 7:40 pm
Wambangalang   Like I do is one of my favourite songs   Jun 9 2012, 7:40 pm
Sonic Tonic   anyone else put on BOP right around now. :)   Jun 9 2012, 7:50 pm
donno   Nice to see some love for LID. Usually when someon...   Jun 9 2012, 7:52 pm
donno   Kind of ironic that the beginning of that disc goe...   Jun 9 2012, 7:55 pm
Badman   Yep OP, Most everyone here likes "Like I do...   Jun 11 2012, 1:15 am
thefunkyredcaboose   We all knew Live was completely f'd when this ...   Jun 11 2012, 7:27 am
Hoodstock   We all knew Live was completely f'd when this...   Jun 11 2012, 6:26 pm
chazeye   The first time I heard LID it blew my mind. I reme...   Jun 12 2012, 7:24 pm
OutToDry   Like I Do has been spoken of here in many circles ...   Jun 11 2012, 9:07 am
thefunkyredcaboose   Like I Do has been spoken of here in many circles...   Jun 11 2012, 9:10 am
Lebanon Corvalis   I assume the label was trying to broaden the appe...   Jun 13 2012, 8:30 pm
Pokey   I've touted this in a few other older threads...   Jun 11 2012, 10:27 am
OutToDry   i cannot disagree with that. CT predicted it and ...   Jun 11 2012, 9:18 am
SecretInsomnia   Ed: "I can't imagine it ... ending"....   Jun 11 2012, 5:24 pm
World Dreamer   I just listened to Like I Do for the first time in...   Jun 13 2012, 7:26 pm
sellingthdrama   Reading this thread made me remember how much I li...   Jun 13 2012, 7:57 pm
sellingthdrama   Ok, so I did just listen to it on iTunes, then wan...   Jun 13 2012, 8:07 pm
OutToDry   Std, ed's dead, he was eaten by wolves, let hi...   Jun 13 2012, 8:33 pm
OutToDry   Chad Taylor performs LID in 2004 with Ten Gallon H...   Aug 31 2012, 8:43 pm
SecretInsomnia   Chad Taylor performs LID in 2004 with Ten Gallon ...   Sep 1 2012, 10:41 am
jayda   Chad Taylor performs LID in 2004 with Ten Gallon ...   Sep 3 2012, 4:59 pm
PillarOfDavidson   I know there are detractors of BOP, but as a whole...   Sep 2 2012, 5:34 pm
SecretInsomnia   I know there are detractors of BOP, but as a whol...   Sep 2 2012, 5:38 pm
Aitkens   Jerry wouldn't change any of the shit lyrics, ...   Sep 2 2012, 5:49 pm
SecretInsomnia   Jerry wouldn't change any of the shit lyrics,...   Sep 3 2012, 4:17 pm


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