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Kowalczyk said he left Live in 2009 because he needed a creative spark. But the band has not been pleased. Just last week, Live, which has a new singer, filed a lawsuit, trying to prevent Kowalczyk from using the Live name.

“I don’t take any of that seriously,” said Kowalczyk, referring to reports of discontent. “I mean, the fans obviously are interested and deserve some sort of reunion with the four original members. And I’m still working for that.”

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QUOTE(Pokey @ Aug 2 2012, 11:21 pm) *

I just can't understand any other reason apart from wanting Live to get more popular and Ed to get richer (none of which should have ANY baring on the enjoyment of the music) that he'd want Ed to go back to Live, assuming everything he's said in the past few years about how Ed is the be all and end all of Live and he's happy with him being solo is true?

He's gone to such great lengths to downplay CCP's importance and highlight Ed's importance and also great lengths to say he's happy with how everything is going for Ed now. So one way or the other as far as I can see it, Nick is exposed here - either he admits that Ed needs CCP and the name Live to survive which goes against everything he's ever told us or he shuts the fuck up and doesn't want a Live reunion with Ed in which case he has no business being on this site because he's effectively admitting he's done with Live.
Either way, I can't fathom Nick giving a response as to why he wants Ed to come back that has to do with THE MUSIC.

Personally, based on everything Nick has said so far, I'd have expected both Nick and the rest of the board to be in complete agreement, although for different reasons. That we don't want Ed back (well, most of us) because we are afraid he will go back to ruining Live's music, and Nick wouldn't want him to go back because he's just as happy with Ed on his own, thinks its just as good and that he doesn't need Live or the Live name. But I guess it just goes to show us that as usual, SJN is full of it.

He can't say it's "for the fans" because apparently, according to Nick AND Ed the fans are more than happy with the solo move and they're all really excited and enthusiastic about where it's going. IF Ed had decided "nope, I'm playing no Live song and I'm only playing solo songs", then I could see how it could be for the fans if he refused to play Live songs unless it was as part of Live. But the fans are apparently getting those same 12 songs that they want over and over and over. And it can't be for the music because apparently there are "no noticeable drop offs" ... so what else is left? Money. It's all about money. Sad.

So come on Nick, is it purely for the money or what because any other answer is just going to completely contradict everything you've been telling us for years.


Great post Pokey

I'd really love Nick to respond to this but we all know he won't.



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SJN1279   Ed Kowalczyk working for LIVE Reunion?!   Aug 1 2012, 12:14 am
PillarOfDavidson   http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8w17ORq4T68/TXK9ksc0cMI/...   Aug 1 2012, 12:27 am
SinfulEyes   I'll make two quick points. One, I can safely ...   Aug 1 2012, 12:33 am
SJN1279   I'll make two quick points. One, I can safely...   Aug 1 2012, 12:36 am
PillarOfDavidson   And you think Chris Shinn is a long term solution...   Aug 1 2012, 12:58 am
Hobbsy   And you think Chris Shinn is a long term solution...   Aug 1 2012, 4:44 am
OutToDry   A 2012 TDTH rework without some greedy,selfis...   Aug 1 2012, 7:15 am
Hobbsy   the final solution would be for you to disappear ...   Aug 1 2012, 7:45 am
OutToDry   And I think those bolded quotes won't sit w...   Aug 1 2012, 2:37 pm
FishOutaWater   And I think those bolded quotes won't sit wel...   Aug 1 2012, 3:41 pm
SinfulEyes   No pun intended here, but what kind of man shits a...   Aug 1 2012, 3:47 pm
Costakoui   I'll make two quick points. One, I can safely...   Aug 1 2012, 1:50 am
jayda   I doubt Ed made the discontent and reunion comment...   Aug 1 2012, 1:19 am
dangum   A copy of the full article for archival purposes: ...   Aug 1 2012, 1:34 am
Pokey   ahahahahaha Yeah that's just what we want, mor...   Aug 1 2012, 2:51 am
Hoodstock   ahahahahaha Yeah that's just what we want, mo...   Aug 1 2012, 11:27 am
Pokey   If CC&P were ever fine to bury the hatchet wi...   Aug 1 2012, 11:30 am
Pokey   http://i45.tinypic.com/2i8zvcj.jpg   Aug 1 2012, 3:01 am
Merica   I'm not sure when he'll have said this, as...   Aug 1 2012, 3:54 am
OutToDry   This is an attempt to undermine Live's progres...   Aug 1 2012, 6:03 am
SecretInsomnia   Hate to say it, but Ed: it's too late.   Aug 1 2012, 6:07 am
Aitkens   Dead Man Walking...   Aug 1 2012, 7:49 am
Pokey   It definitely reeks of trying to undermine Live. F...   Aug 1 2012, 8:00 am
+AllOverMe+   That's a bit stupid, Ed. You weren't respo...   Aug 1 2012, 8:01 am
World Dreamer   This doesn't make sense. According to the setl...   Aug 1 2012, 8:05 am
+AllOverMe+   Ed threated CCP like dogs. The Live fans doesn...   Aug 1 2012, 8:07 am
FishOutaWater   Kowalczyk said he left Live in 2009 because he ne...   Aug 1 2012, 8:42 am
Hobbsy   W-W-W-What?!?! That is the strangest Liv...   Aug 1 2012, 8:51 am
World Dreamer   LOL. Nick wanted to be "counted out" an...   Aug 1 2012, 9:42 am
SJN1279   LOL. Nick wanted to be "counted out" a...   Aug 1 2012, 10:01 am
themaestro   I wanted to be counted out of a version of LIVE w...   Aug 1 2012, 10:16 am
OutToDry   I wanted to be counted out of a version of LIVE...   Aug 1 2012, 10:16 am
OutToDry   it's the spoiled kid mentality!!! ...   Aug 1 2012, 9:57 am
thefunkyredcaboose   What doesn't Ed take seriously exactly? That w...   Aug 1 2012, 10:00 am
OutToDry   He thinks everything is ok in Live land and his at...   Aug 1 2012, 10:02 am
Good_Pain   OTD all I can say if SJN only knew, if he really o...   Aug 1 2012, 10:17 am
OutToDry   OTD all I can say if SJN only knew, if he really ...   Aug 1 2012, 10:18 am
World Dreamer   Again, he lives in a fantasy land 24/7. Life is ...   Aug 1 2012, 10:26 am
themaestro   “I don’t take any of that seriously,” said Kowal...   Aug 1 2012, 10:27 am
OutToDry   The latest promotion for his Green Bay show and...   Aug 1 2012, 10:32 am
themaestro   that thread is hilarious!!! :D In ...   Aug 1 2012, 10:33 am
OutToDry   In its absurdity. :nod: But rooted in fac...   Aug 1 2012, 10:36 am
themaestro   But rooted in facts!!! I'm just...   Aug 1 2012, 10:39 am
OutToDry   I'm just talking about his PR. I went to co...   Aug 1 2012, 10:44 am
themaestro   Please do, go back, I'd love to hear it!...   Aug 1 2012, 11:12 am
OutToDry   I'm not even sure what to say anymore. His ...   Aug 1 2012, 11:14 am
FishOutaWater   1. I would take the lawsuits seriously if I was Ed...   Aug 1 2012, 10:45 am
Pokey   This is what I don't get ... Ed is all "I...   Aug 1 2012, 10:35 am
OutToDry   This is what I don't get ... Ed is all ...   Aug 1 2012, 10:40 am
SJN1279   This is what I have been saying for years. If E...   Aug 1 2012, 11:07 am
OutToDry   Ed isn't LIVE. He is touring as Ed Kowalczy...   Aug 1 2012, 11:11 am
SJN1279   Well enough to carry on what Live is all about. ...   Aug 1 2012, 11:14 am
themaestro   And how is that different for CCP with a new sing...   Aug 1 2012, 11:22 am
OutToDry   So if TGF had been more profitable (whatever th...   Aug 1 2012, 11:31 am
themaestro   Nick reinforces the notion that Ed is everything ...   Aug 1 2012, 11:36 am
OutToDry   And how is that different for CCP with a new si...   Aug 1 2012, 11:27 am
Pokey   Ed isn't LIVE. He is touring as Ed Kowalczyk...   Aug 1 2012, 11:19 am
SinfulEyes   Ed isn't LIVE. He is touring as Ed Kowalczyk...   Aug 1 2012, 3:27 pm
SJN1279   It's simply because he's 1/4 of LIVE. ...   Aug 1 2012, 11:12 am
OutToDry   So maybe CCP should tour as "3/4's of ...   Aug 1 2012, 11:13 am
SJN1279   What happens if LIVE 2.0 doesn't work out the ...   Aug 1 2012, 11:18 am
Jim   What happens if LIVE 2.0 doesn't work out the...   Aug 1 2012, 12:59 pm
Pokey   I like how you presume to know how the guys in Li...   Aug 1 2012, 1:33 pm
Pokey   Nick - why do you even want Ed to get back into ...   Aug 1 2012, 11:27 am
World Dreamer   I think it is pretty simple. Ed started being a di...   Aug 1 2012, 1:47 pm
OutToDry   I think it is pretty simple. Ed started being a d...   Aug 1 2012, 2:16 pm
World Dreamer   I'd rather pay to see this than Live w/ Ed. _...   Aug 1 2012, 2:11 pm
Aitkens   It's one thing to talk shit on your home town ...   Aug 1 2012, 2:52 pm
SctSamadhi   It's one thing to talk shit on your home town...   Aug 1 2012, 8:21 pm
SctSamadhi   There is a simple equation for all of this ..... ...   Aug 1 2012, 8:24 pm
SJN1279   You actually don't know the exact quotes in an...   Aug 1 2012, 8:29 pm
themaestro   You actually don't know the exact quotes in a...   Aug 1 2012, 8:38 pm
SinfulEyes   :D :wow: :facepalm: Classic politician, huh?   Aug 1 2012, 8:48 pm
World Dreamer   Ed escaped and then bashed the place that gave him...   Aug 1 2012, 2:59 pm
OutToDry   you posted it to start a storm which is your calli...   Aug 1 2012, 8:31 pm
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