Ed Kowalczyk working for LIVE Reunion?! Options

[SJN1279]

Kowalczyk said he left Live in 2009 because he needed a creative spark. But the band has not been pleased. Just last week, Live, which has a new singer, filed a lawsuit, trying to prevent Kowalczyk from using the Live name.

“I don’t take any of that seriously,” said Kowalczyk, referring to reports of discontent. “I mean, the fans obviously are interested and deserve some sort of reunion with the four original members. And I’m still working for that.”

http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2012/07/26/v-...ck-stardom.html

[Pokey]

This is what I don't get ... Ed is all "I" "I" "I" which would lead one to believe that in his mind, he doesn't need CCP. Nick has stated he is perfectly happy with Ed solo, he gets all the Live hits he wants ... so why are both Ed and Nick happy with the idea of a Live reunion now? Simple - money. It's just fucking sad. If both are so adamant that Ed is the big star and the one who drove the ship then surely to both of them the ONLY thing Ed can gain by going back to Live is being able to use the name Live which makes more money. So when it boils down to it, a 4 letter word is worth more than Ed Kowalczyk as a person, as a solo artist. It's seriously really sad.

If, during his solo run Ed had been giving credit where credit is due to CCP and actually calling them by name and using the correct "we" instead of "I" then a statement like this I could understand because you'd have been able to trace all along that Ed see's the value in his former bandmates, that he see's the value in their partnership ... but according to Ed for the past few years it was always about him, so why go back? Once again, it's about money.

Oh no, wait its "giving the fans what they want!" ... please. He has said many times that the fans are so into his new solo gig and they're saying to him "oh you got the same passion back as you did in the 90s!" bla bla bla, then how can a Live reunion be "for the fans" if apparently they're all really happy with his solo move?

It just stinks, and Ed Kowalczyk is a dirty man.

[OutToDry]

This is what I don't get ... Ed is all "I" "I" "I" which would lead one to believe that in his mind, he doesn't need CCP. Nick has stated he is perfectly happy with Ed solo, he gets all the Live hits he wants ... so why are both Ed and Nick happy with the idea of a Live reunion now? Simple - money. It's just fucking sad. If both are so adamant that Ed is the big star and the one who drove the ship then surely to both of them the ONLY thing Ed can gain by going back to Live is being able to use the name Live which makes more money. So when it boils down to it, a 4 letter word is worth more than Ed Kowalczyk as a person, as a solo artist. It's seriously really sad.

If, during his solo run Ed had been giving credit where credit is due to CCP and actually calling them by name and using the correct "we" instead of "I" then a statement like this I could understand because you'd have been able to trace all along that Ed see's the value in his former bandmates, that he see's the value in their partnership ... but according to Ed for the past few years it was always about him, so why go back? Once again, it's about money.

Oh no, wait its "giving the fans what they want!" ... please. He has said many times that the fans are so into his new solo gig and they're saying to him "oh you got the same passion back as you did in the 90s!" bla bla bla, then how can a Live reunion be "for the fans" if apparently they're all really happy with his solo move?

It just stinks, and Ed Kowalczyk is a dirty man.

This is what I have been saying for years. If Ed's solo act is the new Live, then why doesn't he have bigger crowds, play bigger venues? It's simply because he's 1/4 of LIVE.

There is a fine line what old rooted fans will go see. I am betting they'll want to see Shinn over Fast Eddie in the current state he's in. Then there is the quality over quantity factor.

This post has been edited by OutToDry: Aug 1 2012, 10:43 am

[SJN1279]

This is what I have been saying for years. If Ed's solo act is the new Live, then why doesn't he have bigger crowds, play bigger venues? It's simply because he's 1/4 of LIVE.

There is a fine line what old rooted fans will go see. I am betting they'll want to see Shinn over Fast Eddie in the current state he's in. Then there is the quality over quantity factor.

Ed isn't LIVE. He is touring as Ed Kowalczyk of LIVE. Any lead singer touring without his band or (without his band name) doesn't draw as well as he did with the band. Do you honestly think LIVE will draw as well without Ed in the long term?

This post has been edited by SJN1279: Aug 1 2012, 11:09 am

[OutToDry]

Ed isn't LIVE. He is touring as Ed Kowalczyk of LIVE. Any lead singer touring without his band doesn't draw as well as he did with the band. Do you honestly think LIVE will draw as well without Ed in the long term?

Well enough to carry on what Live is all about. Probably not if Ed came back. I think many will feign a full reunion with Ed for many many reasons!! If Ed came back without changing and giving back (many of fish's list), I don't think I could go either.

Who cares about the long term. You simply go back to basing it on crowds, it never was about the music with you so you can fuck off.

RIght now Ed is hell bent on exploiting what Live stands for.

This post has been edited by OutToDry: Aug 1 2012, 11:12 am

[SJN1279]

Well enough to carry on what Live is all about. Probably not if Ed came back. I think many will feign a full reunion with Ed for many many reasons!! If Ed came back without changing and giving back (many of fish's list), I don't think I could go either.

Who cares about the long term. You simply go back to basing it on crowds, it never was about the music with you so you can fuck off.

RIght now Ed is hell bent on exploiting what Live stands for.

And how is that different for CCP with a new singer? They are also cashing in on the LIVE brand because their new band wasn't profitable.

[themaestro]

And how is that different for CCP with a new singer? They are also cashing in on the LIVE brand because their new band wasn't profitable.

So if TGF had been more profitable (whatever that means) then they would have just abandoned Live? Right. One has nothing to do with the other. They put way too much into Live to just let it rot away while Ed does his best (worst) Live impersonation. They were never going to just sit around waiting for the almighty EK to return. Newsflash, they had already had enough of him anyway.

[OutToDry]

So if TGF had been more profitable (whatever that means) then they would have just abandoned Live? Right. One has nothing to do with the other. They put way too much into Live to just let it rot away while Ed does his best (worst) Live impersonation. They were never going to just sit around waiting for the almighty EK to return. Newsflash, they had already had enough of him anyway.

They will have both bands!!! Nick reinforces the notion that Ed is everything and CCP must wait for Ed and bow down to Ed.

[themaestro]

Nick reinforces the notion that Ed is everything and CCP must wait for Ed and bow down to Ed.

The notion that Live could exist without Ed doesn't even register with either of them.