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post Aug 1 2012, 12:14 am
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Kowalczyk said he left Live in 2009 because he needed a creative spark. But the band has not been pleased. Just last week, Live, which has a new singer, filed a lawsuit, trying to prevent Kowalczyk from using the Live name.

“I don’t take any of that seriously,” said Kowalczyk, referring to reports of discontent. “I mean, the fans obviously are interested and deserve some sort of reunion with the four original members. And I’m still working for that.”

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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Aug 1 2012, 12:14 am) *


“I don’t take any of that seriously,” said Kowalczyk, referring to reports of discontent. “I mean, the fans obviously are interested and deserve some sort of reunion with the four original members. And I’m still working for that.”

http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2012/07/26/v-...ck-stardom.html


The latest promotion for his Green Bay show and "I Alone' tour suggests otherwise.


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post Aug 1 2012, 10:45 am
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1. I would take the lawsuits seriously if I was Ed. And I think Ed takes it seriously too, which means that the whole last quote is shrouded in bull shit from the very first clause.

2. I would rather have Chris Shinn in Live, or even no Live at all, than to have Ed return to Live and see the band make music like BoP, SFBM or Alive. I think CCP feel the same way. And Ed can't change. He is incapable of making music like TGF or what this new Live music seems to be. He isn't able to do it. It's over.

3. I've said it before and I will say it again - I don't like any talk of the door being open for Live. If Shinn is in, then that's that. Next chapter started. No looking back. I don't want this to be a temporary experiment.

4. I wouldn't trust Ed farther than I can throw him. If he thinks that he will be stuck singing old Live tunes billed simply as Ed Kowalczyk for the rest of his life, he will do ANYTHING to make a bigger business out of himself than that. He will push for control and more compensation. He will want to do his solo acoustic shows using Live's name again.

Here is the only way I would want Ed back in Live.

-Chris Shinn would have to leave the band on his own, or get thrown out due to legitimate reasons.
-Ed has to physically crawl back on his hands and knees, crying and apologizing to Chad, Chad, Patrick, their families, and all fans of Live in the world.
-Ed must reimburse CCP for the stolen money and unpaid royalties.
-He must split everything 1/4 with CCP.
-Ed must only participate as a collaboration with CCP and has to cede all final creative decisions over to CCP.
-He must publicly renounce his Christianity and become a spiritually-lost seeker.
-He must move back to York.
-He must give up all of his material possessoins.
-He must stop being so happy with his family.
-He must admit that he never liked Songe Bob and the Ugly Doll and any of that cutsie child-like stuff that he has gushed about.
-He must swear off coffee and stop drawing stick figures and charging fans for phone calls.
-He must take down his website and shut down his Twitter account and Facebook account.
-He must delete that rendition of Silent Night from You Tube like he did of the embarassing Kings of Leon song.
-He must disassociate himself with Nick and publicly rebuke Nick.
-He can never do the same show or setlist twice.
-He must stop gesturing and dancing and stripping at concerts.
-He cannot crack another smile at any concerts.
-He can never use the words LOL or rawk in a sentence ever again.
-He must come to this website and post a real apology to each and every one of us who he has disapointed and vow to be like his old self.

Then, and only then, would I even consider it. The first point about Chris Shinn is a pre-requisite for any of the other stuff. Chris Shinn is our guy now. But if he isn't some day, then those are my terms.

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SJN1279   Ed Kowalczyk working for LIVE Reunion?!   Aug 1 2012, 12:14 am
PillarOfDavidson   http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8w17ORq4T68/TXK9ksc0cMI/...   Aug 1 2012, 12:27 am
SinfulEyes   I'll make two quick points. One, I can safely ...   Aug 1 2012, 12:33 am
SJN1279   I'll make two quick points. One, I can safely...   Aug 1 2012, 12:36 am
PillarOfDavidson   And you think Chris Shinn is a long term solution...   Aug 1 2012, 12:58 am
Hobbsy   And you think Chris Shinn is a long term solution...   Aug 1 2012, 4:44 am
OutToDry   A 2012 TDTH rework without some greedy,selfis...   Aug 1 2012, 7:15 am
Hobbsy   the final solution would be for you to disappear ...   Aug 1 2012, 7:45 am
OutToDry   And I think those bolded quotes won't sit w...   Aug 1 2012, 2:37 pm
FishOutaWater   And I think those bolded quotes won't sit wel...   Aug 1 2012, 3:41 pm
SinfulEyes   No pun intended here, but what kind of man shits a...   Aug 1 2012, 3:47 pm
Costakoui   I'll make two quick points. One, I can safely...   Aug 1 2012, 1:50 am
jayda   I doubt Ed made the discontent and reunion comment...   Aug 1 2012, 1:19 am
dangum   A copy of the full article for archival purposes: ...   Aug 1 2012, 1:34 am
Pokey   ahahahahaha Yeah that's just what we want, mor...   Aug 1 2012, 2:51 am
Hoodstock   ahahahahaha Yeah that's just what we want, mo...   Aug 1 2012, 11:27 am
Pokey   If CC&P were ever fine to bury the hatchet wi...   Aug 1 2012, 11:30 am
Pokey   http://i45.tinypic.com/2i8zvcj.jpg   Aug 1 2012, 3:01 am
Merica   I'm not sure when he'll have said this, as...   Aug 1 2012, 3:54 am
OutToDry   This is an attempt to undermine Live's progres...   Aug 1 2012, 6:03 am
SecretInsomnia   Hate to say it, but Ed: it's too late.   Aug 1 2012, 6:07 am
Aitkens   Dead Man Walking...   Aug 1 2012, 7:49 am
Pokey   It definitely reeks of trying to undermine Live. F...   Aug 1 2012, 8:00 am
+AllOverMe+   That's a bit stupid, Ed. You weren't respo...   Aug 1 2012, 8:01 am
World Dreamer   This doesn't make sense. According to the setl...   Aug 1 2012, 8:05 am
+AllOverMe+   Ed threated CCP like dogs. The Live fans doesn...   Aug 1 2012, 8:07 am
FishOutaWater   Kowalczyk said he left Live in 2009 because he ne...   Aug 1 2012, 8:42 am
Hobbsy   W-W-W-What?!?! That is the strangest Liv...   Aug 1 2012, 8:51 am
World Dreamer   LOL. Nick wanted to be "counted out" an...   Aug 1 2012, 9:42 am
SJN1279   LOL. Nick wanted to be "counted out" a...   Aug 1 2012, 10:01 am
themaestro   I wanted to be counted out of a version of LIVE w...   Aug 1 2012, 10:16 am
OutToDry   I wanted to be counted out of a version of LIVE...   Aug 1 2012, 10:16 am
OutToDry   it's the spoiled kid mentality!!! ...   Aug 1 2012, 9:57 am
thefunkyredcaboose   What doesn't Ed take seriously exactly? That w...   Aug 1 2012, 10:00 am
OutToDry   He thinks everything is ok in Live land and his at...   Aug 1 2012, 10:02 am
Good_Pain   OTD all I can say if SJN only knew, if he really o...   Aug 1 2012, 10:17 am
OutToDry   OTD all I can say if SJN only knew, if he really ...   Aug 1 2012, 10:18 am
World Dreamer   Again, he lives in a fantasy land 24/7. Life is ...   Aug 1 2012, 10:26 am
OutToDry   The latest promotion for his Green Bay show and...   Aug 1 2012, 10:32 am
themaestro   that thread is hilarious!!! :D In ...   Aug 1 2012, 10:33 am
OutToDry   In its absurdity. :nod: But rooted in fac...   Aug 1 2012, 10:36 am
themaestro   But rooted in facts!!! I'm just...   Aug 1 2012, 10:39 am
OutToDry   I'm just talking about his PR. I went to co...   Aug 1 2012, 10:44 am
themaestro   Please do, go back, I'd love to hear it!...   Aug 1 2012, 11:12 am
OutToDry   I'm not even sure what to say anymore. His ...   Aug 1 2012, 11:14 am
Pokey   This is what I don't get ... Ed is all "I...   Aug 1 2012, 10:35 am
OutToDry   This is what I don't get ... Ed is all ...   Aug 1 2012, 10:40 am
SJN1279   This is what I have been saying for years. If E...   Aug 1 2012, 11:07 am
OutToDry   Ed isn't LIVE. He is touring as Ed Kowalczy...   Aug 1 2012, 11:11 am
SJN1279   Well enough to carry on what Live is all about. ...   Aug 1 2012, 11:14 am
themaestro   And how is that different for CCP with a new sing...   Aug 1 2012, 11:22 am
OutToDry   So if TGF had been more profitable (whatever th...   Aug 1 2012, 11:31 am
themaestro   Nick reinforces the notion that Ed is everything ...   Aug 1 2012, 11:36 am
OutToDry   And how is that different for CCP with a new si...   Aug 1 2012, 11:27 am
Pokey   Ed isn't LIVE. He is touring as Ed Kowalczyk...   Aug 1 2012, 11:19 am
SinfulEyes   Ed isn't LIVE. He is touring as Ed Kowalczyk...   Aug 1 2012, 3:27 pm
SJN1279   It's simply because he's 1/4 of LIVE. ...   Aug 1 2012, 11:12 am
OutToDry   So maybe CCP should tour as "3/4's of ...   Aug 1 2012, 11:13 am
SJN1279   What happens if LIVE 2.0 doesn't work out the ...   Aug 1 2012, 11:18 am
Jim   What happens if LIVE 2.0 doesn't work out the...   Aug 1 2012, 12:59 pm
Pokey   I like how you presume to know how the guys in Li...   Aug 1 2012, 1:33 pm
Pokey   Nick - why do you even want Ed to get back into ...   Aug 1 2012, 11:27 am
World Dreamer   I think it is pretty simple. Ed started being a di...   Aug 1 2012, 1:47 pm
OutToDry   I think it is pretty simple. Ed started being a d...   Aug 1 2012, 2:16 pm
World Dreamer   I'd rather pay to see this than Live w/ Ed. _...   Aug 1 2012, 2:11 pm
Aitkens   It's one thing to talk shit on your home town ...   Aug 1 2012, 2:52 pm
SctSamadhi   It's one thing to talk shit on your home town...   Aug 1 2012, 8:21 pm
SctSamadhi   There is a simple equation for all of this ..... ...   Aug 1 2012, 8:24 pm
SJN1279   You actually don't know the exact quotes in an...   Aug 1 2012, 8:29 pm
themaestro   You actually don't know the exact quotes in a...   Aug 1 2012, 8:38 pm
SinfulEyes   :D :wow: :facepalm: Classic politician, huh?   Aug 1 2012, 8:48 pm
World Dreamer   Ed escaped and then bashed the place that gave him...   Aug 1 2012, 2:59 pm
OutToDry   you posted it to start a storm which is your calli...   Aug 1 2012, 8:31 pm
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