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post Jul 26 2012, 3:56 pm
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Is it me or has Ed completely become whoever he is talking to in The Ride? Or did I just completely misunderstand the song?

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That's a lame deceptive description of Christianity Fish.


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QUOTE(deepenoughtodive @ Jul 27 2012, 9:43 am) *

That's a lame deceptive description of Christianity Fish.


Agree 1000%.

A Christian is a disciple of Jesus. Its not about following anyone but Him. To be Christ-like is to love. See John 13:34-35. See also 1 John 4:7-12.


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QUOTE(jclive @ Jul 27 2012, 7:18 am) *


A Christian is a disciple of Jesus. Its not about following anyone but Him. To be Christ-like is to love. See John 13:34-35. See also 1 John 4:7-12.


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If this is the definition of christian, we would have about 15% of people as christians in the U.S. rather than 75%. Most christians are a lot more like fish has described and are far more into following the beliefs of the church than they are in following a 2000 year old teacher. Jesus would have loved homosexuals, black people, muslims, and prostitutes but many christians (they check the box on surveys) actively hate these groups.

I don't know ONE PERSON who acts like jesus. No one gives away all their material possessions and dedicates their lives to helping the wretches of society. You are dead wrong Jclive. You will probably retort that we can never be that much like jesus but I say buddhist monks do it all the time so don't go there.


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QUOTE(Badman @ Jul 27 2012, 1:37 pm) *

Psssshhhhh facepalm.gif

If this is the definition of christian, we would have about 15% of people as christians in the U.S. rather than 75%. Most christians are a lot more like fish has described and are far more into following the beliefs of the church than they are in following a 2000 year old teacher. Jesus would have loved homosexuals, black people, muslims, and prostitutes but many christians (they check the box on surveys) actively hate these groups.

I don't know ONE PERSON who acts like jesus. No one gives away all their material possessions and dedicates their lives to helping the wretches of society. You are dead wrong Jclive. You will probably retort that we can never be that much like jesus but I say buddhist monks do it all the time so don't go there.


That's the problem right there: too many definitions of "Christian."

Christians should judge themselves, not the non-believers. That is between them and God. (1 Corinthians 5:12-13).

I normally dont have a bunch of scriptures to quote, but my chruch did a series recently on this very topic. And I took good notes. If anyone is interested, here's the link: http://www.northpoint.org/messages/christian


P.S. No one has ever given me a survey asking which groups I actively hate...



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FishOutaWater   That's a lame deceptive description of Christ...   Jul 27 2012, 9:11 am
FishOutaWater   Agree 1000%. A Christian is a disciple of Jesus....   Jul 27 2012, 9:58 am
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