The Ride, Curious on what you all think... Options

[World Dreamer]

Is it me or has Ed completely become whoever he is talking to in The Ride? Or did I just completely misunderstand the song?

This post has been edited by World Dreamer: Jul 26 2012, 3:56 pm

[PillarOfDavidson]

Is it me or has Ed completely become whoever he is talking to in The Ride? Or did I just completely misunderstand the song?

Maybe you're just focusing on these lines:

"In the west we think we're the best
We've shown the whole wide world that money is all we care for"

??

I don't think there is any particular person he's talking about in the song. I thought it was just a general song about spirituality and letting go of the material.

where is this song? I got it confused with one of the others I rise, I drive, I'm the proof whatever.

Track 10 on V.

This post has been edited by PillarOfDavidson: Jul 26 2012, 7:07 pm

[World Dreamer]

Maybe you're just focusing on these lines:

"In the west we think we're the best
We've shown the whole wide world that money is all we care for"

??

I don't think there is any particular person he's talking about in the song. I thought it was just a general song about spirituality and letting go of the material.

Probably so. I just keep hearing him talk about how we don't need money. And now all he can think about is money. Plus it sounds like he is praising the East and meditation, and now he is as West/Christian as it gets.

Oh well, came up on iTunes and I was the same way as some of you, I hadn't listened to it in a long time.

[FishOutaWater]

And now all he can think about is money. Plus it sounds like he is praising the East and meditation, and now he is as West/Christian as it gets.

This highlights the problem that I have with Ed being so Christian. This is really hard to say this without sounding negative about Chrisitianity. But I think this is just factual. When you look at Mental Jewelry and the teaching of Krishnamurti and Eastern Spirituality, they are about open, direct experiential, universal spirituality. No seperation or judgement or conditioning or attachment or "beliefs". No flags or mental jewelry, if you will. Christianity is (generally speaking) about accepting a set of beliefs. It is about following teachers and teachings and a canon. It is generally about how Christianity is the one true religion and all others are wrong because Jesus is the way to God. Thus, it is about seperation, exclusion, judgement, and FEAR. It is ALL about flags and mental jewelry. It is centered around beliefs and judgment and fear. It is exclusive, whereas, eastern spirituality is inclusive or, at least, non-exclusive. Christianity is really ego-centered, whereas Eastern spirituality is non-egoic. Many Christians do good deeds or give to charity in order to gain - to get into heaven or to add a checkmark in the positive column with God. That is ego-based behavior and not pure, altruistic compassion.

So for Ed to go full Christian - it betrays all of the enlightened thinking that he honored in the past. It seems like a spiritual regression. Again - it is hard to say this without sounding negative about Christianity. I think it is possible to be a Christian who practices it in a non-literal, non-exclusionary, eastern-inspired way. Personally, that is about where I am. And maybe that is where Ed is - but he doesn't present himself like that.

It is really disappointing to me.

This post has been edited by FishOutaWater: Jul 27 2012, 8:39 am